I'm a little confused about the full sequencing in DPOS

Nate The Surveyor

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Recently, I've done some work where DPOS is SHIFTING my base a few hundredths, but I don't want it to. I want to STAY with the coords from the 1st day's dpos. (This is a job with over 20 base sessions) So, I'm winding up with coords of differing values for the base.
I thought I had assigned the base value. (When I selected the base station point)
I tried to use the PLANE looking thing, to ASSIGN the base values, but when I select MANUAL or AUTOMATIC, it locks up, and I have to hold the on button down, forcing a shutdown. Restart, and things are still 0.09' different.
So, I went to the GEAR for dpos settings, and told it to only process BASE to ROVER, and re-dposed it. NOW, the base coord goes back to the original location. That's good. But, now, I loose the freedom to select RTK and PPK. It shows ALL my points as 1-Local. That's not funny. 1-Local should ONLY apply to the BASE station. It is my option for ALL the shots. IF I select RTK, then I get a popup that says "Select RTK coord for ALL points" I should be able to select RTK or PPK for any point I like, without any complicated issies with how the base was derived.


Either 1-Local, Autonomous, or Fixed, from other previous data.
or
"AUTO Select the Best RTK/PPK for all points"

This is troubling. I want to be able to select what I want to select.

So, I have a number of problems. The behavior of DPOS is shifting my base coord, (As though it were an autonomous point) when it should not.
It won't allow me to assign base values, using the PLANE thing.
And, it's lacking that STRAIGHT FORWARD approach.
It's getting too complex.
I want it to always process the BASE to CORS and show the difference, (Like it used to) without using the GEAR settings changer, and selecting the Base to Rover option only.
Anyway, I hope I have worded this well enough, for you to understand it.

And, a grin:
Adam and Eve...
Were the first people to not read "Apple's" (computer's) terms and conditions.
:)

Nate
 

Nate The Surveyor

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I've tried alot of things. But, now I'm down to one final Base, with Rover shots, and I am trying to get that base point to move over to the correct coord. It still crashes the system. and, my little work around seems to have failed me. I have tried several times to use the RE-Dpos, and it's not working. Here is a screen shot:
20191011-13.07.37_00435_Localization.png

I think I found the problem. Look at this screen shot. At the top of the screen, is the SHIFT I need, to do with the base. Base 21 is the one I need to move. And, 372A is the one it needs to move to. However, the BLUE letters, down on the screen are showing a ZERO shift. What is going on here? I have deadlines, and I'm really trying to figure this out.
Can anybody solve this? Thanks!
Nate
 

Nate The Surveyor

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20191011-16.25.36_00435_Processed_Point_Info.png
20191011-16.25.41_00435_Processed_Point_Info.png
20191011-16.25.50_00435_Processed_Point_Info.png

Here are 3 consecutive screen shots. I am becoming persuaded that something is drastically wrong with my LS. I saw this a few months ago, but thought it was a glitch. Now, I think it has either a BIG bug, or needs a J-field re install.
The ROVER shots should not be showing up like this.
Nate
 

Nate The Surveyor

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OK, I got tired about all the trouble. So, I moved to Pre-Release version. It still locks it up. Hey, I've worked on this all day.
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Duane Frymire

Active Member
Only work around I can think of is stop base without downloading. Then associate first day base with shots from second day. Then DPOS. Still might get a little different though because re-depos of day one base might be slightly different.
 

Nate The Surveyor

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One of my problems is:
(From conversation w/ Shawn Billings)
When you work several days on the same job, and base station, and day one you DPOS it, then you have this spc known point, and you come back multiple days in a row, and use the same coords for base, you MUST manually assign the base known values each time. (That is, pick them) If you don't, it will assume that the base values are from an autonomous source, and will (during DPOS) shift the session, and days work. The amount of shift will vary, but is typically less than a tenth horizontal, but for a short session, could be more. My vertical was 0.49' off. This is not desired behavior. To prevent this, always assign the value, by selecting the proper values for the base station.
Really, this needs to be fixed, by the software engineers, to as to allow the users to assign the base values, AT ANY TIME, so as to remedy the base values, if things get messed up.
I can see doing two independent jobs, FROM THE SAME BASE STATION. And, then (half way through job 2) needing to assign the values from the base dpos 1st job, to the base of the second job, and having a real fuss with the software. Just because values came from autonomous source, it should not block the user from using the "assign coord" routine, that looks like a plane. (It locks up my LS!)
Thanks,
Nate
 

Adam

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5PLS
Did you try tapping the button that says ABS (absolute) and switching the base?

Duane, I don't think it will associate the 1st day base file with rover points collected on day 2. It associates the rover and base files based on the time collected. Unless something has changed.
 

Nate The Surveyor

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Adam, this thing is messed up. I cannot seem to get the BASE17 point to have the right coordinates. I have tried many things.
It's a bad thing, when I am relentless, but banging me head into a wall.
Nate
 

Nate The Surveyor

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OK, I'm sending the project. It has about 22 base sessions. And, around 1000 shots in it. And, some Trajectories. Base17 is the one giving me trouble. I went to PROJECTS, and am "SENDING PROJECT TO SUPPORT".
Nate
 

Nate The Surveyor

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Here is the problem issue:
Day 1: Autonomous Base
Day 2: Assign base values, from DPOS, base station.
Day 3: I am working off the SAME base station values as day 2. At this point you STILL have to PICK the BASE1 values, even though they are still in the T-2, from day 2. I did not know this. I did NOT pick the base coord values, on this day 3. So, what it did, was it treated the base point for day 3, as though it were autonomous. And, it moved it 0.09' HORIZ and 0.45' VERT. That is what I am trying to correct.
Thank you.
 
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