Are there any repair guidelines for antenna cable p/n 14-578117-06?

Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
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Are there any repair guidelines for antenna cable p/n 14-578117-06?

Of particular interest
The white wire has a soldered connection to the antenna base's center post over which appears to be some sort of a glob of silicon glue encasing it. Is there a trick in the removal of the glob so as not to damage the center post?
 

Jim Frame

Well-Known Member
Absent a response from someone with direct knowledge and experience, I think I'd first try running an Xacto knife around the circumference and then prying out the glob. It might have to come out in pieces.
 

Jon Gramm

Member
You may also want to try a heat gun. I have done this before, but not with this particular connection. The glue softened up a great deal, then I sprayed it with WD-40 which seemed to dissolve some of the glue. You need not worry about the metallic connections, unless you resort to using a sledge hammer.
(Just speaking from experience, the sledgehammer is a bit of overkill, but it can be instantly gratifying.)
 

Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
I appreciate your helpful suggestions. The hammer and boiling water helped to put out the WD-40 fire and the Xacto the debridement, but still the glue glob tauntingly glares back at me. I'll have another go at it in a bit, but it should first be mentioned that the problems are contributed by design.

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Jim Frame

Well-Known Member
but still the glue glob tauntingly glares back at m

Might the glob be epoxy? I know from personal experience that Trimble used epoxy to fasten the Motorola GM300 into the heatsink that forms the back of the Trimmark II case. Sawing off the heatsink was the only way I found to liberate the radio from the massive heatsink, and it wasn't an entirely satisfactory solution.
 

Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
I ended up plunging the soldering iron into heart of the glob and it quickly became liquefied (in retrospect, I'm thinking it was just hot glue) allowing the central glue mass to be pushed out of the way. Once cooled, needle nose pliers was used to pull the remaining plug out fairly cleanly.

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Jon Gramm

Member
I forgot to mention this, but a Dremel tool is a great thing to have.
Multiple tools for debriding, grinding, polishing and so on.
 

Jim Frame

Well-Known Member
FWIW, I think the retrofit of a cable clamp to the ground plane does a good job of preventing the cable damage problem.
 

Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
FWIW, I think the retrofit of a cable clamp to the ground plane does a good job of preventing the cable damage problem.

I'm not sure I follow, Jim. Do you completely breakdown the setup at the end of the day?

I've got a length of 1 1/2" PVC Schedule 40 pipe with two ends caps and foam inserts to store the antenna. I keep it in the same bag as the (3) 1-meter poles & tripod (stays in the vehicle). The ground plane disc I keep with the battery bag (gets brought into the office).

I forgot to mention this, but a Dremel tool is a great thing to have.
Multiple tools for debriding, grinding, polishing and so on.

Yes! The Dremel is quite handy.
 

Jim Frame

Well-Known Member
Do you completely breakdown the setup at the end of the day?

I guess that depends on what you mean by "completely." Here's a photo of the way I store and transport my antenna, though it was taken before I added the cable clamp to the ground plane:
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toivo1037

Active Member
Kelly,
Not sure what you are using for your radio case, but what I have done is use an old triple prism case, and I unscrew just the top of the antenna, and leave the connector, ground plane and everything attached to each other. I installed the clamp on the ground plane as previously documented to hold the wire near the edge of the ground plane, which has eliminated the worry about where the wire goes into the body. (I had a wire break there too). So I put the radio and groundplane+adaptor in the case, and coil the power cable on top of this too. I then zip-tied a section of PVC pipe with one end cap inside my antenna-mast tripod case which holds the upper portion of the unscrewed antenna and the tripod This setup has kept everything nice and safe.

Also, here is a link to a previous the broken wire & transport discussion: https://support.javad.com/index.php?threads/radio-antenna-transport.473/page-2
 

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Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
Jim - Ah yes, I've never forgotten the image, only I wasn't sure I was correctly recalling the photographer.

I meant completely breaking down the setup, cabling and all. I like to keep all cables, including the antenna cable, in the Battery Bag in one of the side pockets. The ground plane disk is also kept with the Battery Bag.

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Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
Kelly,
Not sure what you are using for your radio case, but what I have done is use an old triple prism case, and I unscrew just the top of the antenna, and leave the connector, ground plane and everything attached to each other. I installed the clamp on the ground plane as previously documented to hold the wire near the edge of the ground plane, which has eliminated the worry about where the wire goes into the body. (I had a wire break there too). So I put the radio and groundplane+adaptor in the case, and coil the power cable on top of this too. I then zip-tied a section of PVC pipe with one end cap inside my antenna-mast tripod case which holds the upper portion of the unscrewed antenna and the tripod This setup has kept everything nice and safe.

Also, here is a link to a previous the broken wire & transport discussion: https://support.javad.com/index.php?threads/radio-antenna-transport.473/page-2

Nice repurpose of that glass bag.
 
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