Eliminate Bucket from solution

Mark Wheeler

Active Member
In difficult environments, multiple buckets are created in phase 1. Sometimes it is evident that the leading bucket is not good (by elevation, distance to last, distance to record, etc.), but stubbornly holds on to the active spot while another bucket down the totem pole is more likely true (based on graphical 3d position or RTPK). I would like to be able to click on the obviously bad bucket and get it out of the way, thus speeding up the phase 1 verification by giving the real solution a chance. Any chance to address this in the software?
 

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
To be able to push a low grade bucket lower on the totem pole would be great. Allowing the user to push lower obviously bad shots, would be wonderful. These algorithms are the critical core of what makes this system what it is. I can see hesitancy to meddle with this part. But, progress.... Comes !
Nate
 

Darren Clemons

Well-Known Member
I suggested this 3 or 4 years ago way back before we even had PPK and now rtpk. We’ve been able to sometimes “see” the correct bucket, which wasn’t the lead bucket, for years. I do see, however, how the user being able to toggle the buckets and choose a certain one would likely really screw with the process that’s going on inside the LS.
Nevertheless, it would be extremely handy in certain instances although when this particular scenario happens, more often than not, the bucket we think is correct gets to the front as it should in time.
Patience is a virtue…..I just don’t have that particular virtue :)
 

Mark Wheeler

Active Member
It just bugs me when I know that the lead bucket is 20' high and 10' different. In a rough environments it can hang you up for a half hour before it can get around the lead bucket.
 

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
If my LS takes off clicking, on what I know is the "wrong bucket", I press U1, to reset RTK. This keeps the wrong group from building statistical strength.
Likewise, if I'm doing stake out, and I'm sure/very sure it's clicking, but time is not advancing, and that will lead to an improper jump fail, I press U1 to stop it from a jump fail.
Nate
 

Jim Frame

Well-Known Member
and that will lead to an improper jump fail

What's the origin of the term "jump fail"? I get the fail part, but what's trying to jump from where to where? Maybe the current position moves away from its start point beyond a certain tolerance, and an attempt is made to "jump" to a different integer solution, but that doesn't meet specs either?

All I know for sure is that the jump fail notice is never a cause for celebration.
 

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
All I know for sure is that the jump fail notice is never a cause for celebration.
Not altogether. I push my gear beyond what all the other mfr's do.
And, probable beyond what 95% of the other Javad users do.

I'm not special. I'm stubborn.
Jump fail is good, when it's on the wrong spot. I have a profile called Canopy.
In this profile, I have opened up the horiz, to 0.25, and the vert to a foot. This keeps it from jump fails, with a bucket that's close. But, this transfers more responsibility to me, the user to pay attention to what grade of data I'm generating.
There is a reason I'm a Javad user/fan.
Even when I have to wait on fed ex!
Nate
 
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