Export coords, by base station

Nate The Surveyor

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Is there a way to export coords, by base station?
This would mean that the base station, and all associated coords, would be exported.
Just pick the base station, and it makes an export ascii, for all associated points.
It seems handy...
Nate
 

Nate The Surveyor

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That would be ok... If I could later sweep it to one page... Ie, change all points from a particular base session, from page 1, to page zero.
It would still be nice to export by base session.
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Nate The Surveyor

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Actually, the LS already does part of what I want, but it's on the DPOS side.
When you review the coords, at DPOS, it only shows that session. So, it already segregates by session. Now, we just want to export that.
 

Nate The Surveyor

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Another item, under the DPOS list, by base station, is that sequence of points. Sequence should be the order they were shot, start to finish (preferred), or finish to start. But, mine is essentialy wild.... No order to it.
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Matt Johnson

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5PLS
An option to filter points by their base point has been added now so this is possible.

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Nate The Surveyor

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I was in a hurry, 6 wks ago. I shot some 34 points, on a job. Water lines, sewer lines etc.
Never uploaded them.
Today, I went to that job, and exported by base. Man, that was good. I have funky point sequences, etc, on this job. This allowed me to go and do this, with confidence that I had all the correct data. Thank you!
Nate
 

Nate The Surveyor

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A low priority thought, or request.

One of the revolutionary things that Javad has done with the LS, is this concept of a new base station, name for every time it is used. This makes redundant coords for the base station, as many times as a job is visited, and worked on. Also, inside the LS, this group is understood as "unity" or one. So, the base, and all of its corresponding sideshots are a single entity.
Since the above is true, I'd like to be able to view this in acad.
So, a little utility that draws lines from the base, to all of the corresponding sideshots, for that session, would be great. And, to be able to make these lines, export theses lines, and delete these lines would be good.
Some jobs are in cities. Some jobs are simply "ongoing". We do a job, and another, and we can wind up with several hundred surveys, all from 5 base stations, spread over a range of 25 square miles.
How I'd use this, would be after each job is completed, export these radial shots into acad, and then turn off this layer. (For most Cogo) But, any time I need to review a job, turn it on, and see which base station was used to make that particular shot.
Base stations get destroyed. New ones get made, and sometimes kids vandalize a base nail, or monument. The purpose of these radial lines, would be to help keep up with stuff. Anybody else think this is a good idea?
For "trajectory" a radial line, base to first, and base to last point in trajectory would be adequate.
Discuss....
N
 

Bryan Enfinger

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I do this too Nate by manually drawing the RTK or terrestrial traverse between points. Sometimes it's hard to comprehend all the data points without knowing what base point they are from, especially if a terrestrial traverse is included. I like to see where the points are located from for important ties to property corners, control monuments, etc. It's great to go back on a project and see exactly how everything was done.
 

Nate The Surveyor

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Bryan, perhaps this would be better performed in autocad. But, I think J-field can do it too. I just don't think it'd be too complex. (Man, I hate it when a client says that to me!) But, it would be useful. I really would like it. It should draw lines base, to node, for every sideshot from that base. If a point had 5 shots, they should all get a line. It could be on the SAME screen as "export by base" above. Just a check box. It could also serve as a check, that a point did not get moved. A check box "export radial lines from base, dwg format" and, it could make this file alongside the export by base. This way, if many days were spent on this job, only that base, and relative radial lines are exported, in that step.
Thank you,
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Steve Douty

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A low priority thought, or request.

One of the revolutionary things that Javad has done with the LS, is this concept of a new base station, name for every time it is used. This makes redundant coords for the base station, as many times as a job is visited, and worked on. Also, inside the LS, this group is understood as "unity" or one. So, the base, and all of its corresponding sideshots are a single entity.
Since the above is true, I'd like to be able to view this in acad.
So, a little utility that draws lines from the base, to all of the corresponding sideshots, for that session, would be great. And, to be able to make these lines, export theses lines, and delete these lines would be good.
Some jobs are in cities. Some jobs are simply "ongoing". We do a job, and another, and we can wind up with several hundred surveys, all from 5 base stations, spread over a range of 25 square miles.
How I'd use this, would be after each job is completed, export these radial shots into acad, and then turn off this layer. (For most Cogo) But, any time I need to review a job, turn it on, and see which base station was used to make that particular shot.
Base stations get destroyed. New ones get made, and sometimes kids vandalize a base nail, or monument. The purpose of these radial lines, would be to help keep up with stuff. Anybody else think this is a good idea?
For "trajectory" a radial line, base to first, and base to last point in trajectory would be adequate.
Discuss....
N
I'm not an acad user. In Carlson I can gather and/or import my points into Point Groups. This assigns unique layers to any grouping of points and allows the manipulation of the point groups (turn on/off/move/adjust/assign different symbols, etc.). This is how I accomplish what you are talking about.
 

Nate The Surveyor

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Steve, I'm using Carlson too. But, it's 2009, because I did not want to jump to the intelicad platform. (Tired of more changes!).
I see what you mean. I've used point groups before. Thanks for the suggestion.
Nate
 

Sdrake14

Active Member
Steve, I'm using Carlson too. But, it's 2009, because I did not want to jump to the intelicad platform. (Tired of more changes!).
I see what you mean. I've used point groups before. Thanks for the suggestion.
Nate

Nate I was an autocad user since 1986 and I made the switch to Carlson with intellicad in 2017 without a hitch. No loss of functioning commands I have used since Acad V. 2.01 and I totally love what I am using today.
 

Joe Paulin

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I have always used Carlson with the embedded Autocad but have been curious about the intellicad. Can anyone else chime in with their experience with it?
 

Sdrake14

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I wrung my hands over the transition and one thing that eventually helped me make the change was discovering that for a short time Intellicad was indeed owned by Autodesk and part of that development history made it a true clone. I said okay gave it a try and found that not only did all the tools I was used to still worked exactly so I also had complete file compatibility....and not only with that but found the compatibility of Carlson with Microstation file was actually better than Civil3D's, I could import FHWA files when a partner consultant using 3D could not. Below is the Intelicad history blurb from Carlson:

“Where did the name come from? The name of the software ‘IntelliCAD’ comes from a programming company that was formed in the early 1990s in San Diego, CA, USA. Their main claim to fame was ADE (AutoCAD Data Extension), which they sold to Autodesk, and which eventually became part of Autodesk Map.” “IntelliCAD the software has a complex and fascinating history that winds its way through Softdesk, Autodesk, Boomerang, Visio, just missing Microsoft, then onto the IntelliCAD Technology Consortium, and now [includes] a variety of brand names, such as CADopia, Bricscad, and DWGEditor.”

  • 1994, August: “IntelliCAD is purchased by Softdesk of Henniker, NH.”
  • 1996, December: “Autodesk acquires Softdesk… Softdesk apparently did not tell Autodesk about its AutoCAD clone.”
  • 1997, March: “Autodesk investigated by the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) over the alleged monopoly status of AutoCAD… The FTC allowed Autodesk to purchase Softdesk after Autodesk agreed to: (1) spin off IntelliCAD; (2) not attempt re-acquire the technology; (3) not attempt to acquire any company that owns or controls IntelliCAD; and (4) not interfere with employees who leave Autodesk to work with IntelliCAD… IntelliCAD was spun off as Boomerang Technology in San Jose, CA.”
  • 1997, March: “Visio bought Boomerang.”
  • 1998, March: “IntelliCAD 98 ships. The price was originally pegged at US$495; upon release, the price dropped to $349 as a ‘special introductory price’; the price drops further to $149 at computer superstores, such as CompUSA. Through to the end of June, the first three months of sales for IntelliCAD were nearly 12,000 licenses, producing $3 million in gross revenue — an average of $250 per license.”
  • 1998, May: “IntelliCAD is suddenly incompatible with AutoCAD! Autodesk releases a maintenance release for AutoCAD R14.01 that makes a change to the .dwg format, and preventing IntelliCAD from reading drawing files… Visio updated IntelliCAD 98 to work with 14.01 files.”
  • 1999, July 27: “Visio cuts IntelliCAD loose by granting the IntelliCAD Technology Consortium a royalty-free, perpetual license for the source code of the IntelliCAD 2000 technology. The ITC was set up by Visio, but run by an independent board of directors.
  • 1999, September: “IntelliCAD Technical Consortium opens its Web site at http://www.intellicad.org.”
Subsequent releases of IntelliCAD through the ITC occur every year since its initial release (for more about IntelliCAD history link visit the Press section of the IntelliCAD Technology Consortium web site).​
 

Sdrake14

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And not only but I have also found Carlson tools for a Land Surveyor are second to none in my experience. It feels like they get it.......not unlike Javad.
 

Bill Eggers

Active Member
I started using Carlson in 2007 with the embedded OEM Cad. Started using the Intellicad about 3 years ago and have the whole office including Civil Engineering using Carlson now. Very happy with it, great tech support. Carlson is one of the members of the Intellicad Consortium so they have a close connection. I presume that Autodesk likely made it very difficult for Carlson since they are competitors.
 
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