How to use average points, when you get 2 that are too close?

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
Back when avg was available behind the dist to last button, I'd often (while occupying the point) make that preliminary avg point, to see what it looked like. And, continue making shots, until I "understood that cluster".
It's nice to be able to see it, after each iteration, and "See the cluster".
Nate
 

Vladimir Prasolov

Well-Known Member
JAVAD GNSS
I think we have return that feature back. I agree that it is convenient to see distance to last point for wrong-fix jump detection and to smart average position with outlier eliminating. The only thing we worry is accessibility and visibility of that clustering feature. Could you suggest please how to name that white button and what category is most appropriate for it? It would be good if even those who just started to use J-Filed will easily find that feature.
 

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
Could you suggest please how to name that white button and what category is most appropriate for it?
This is for free.
Put it both places.
Behind the dist to last button, (for the power users, and experienced users)
And on a white box button. Call it "cluster average", is fine. But, add a note on the one with a white box, that it can be accessed behind the dist to last button. (This helps, because you don't need to use a white box)
Also, don't make us find the first point in the cluster manually, (select all points within x dist) add a button "closest points" so it finds that cluster quick and automatically.
Thanks for asking.
Nate
 

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
@Vladimir Prasolov
Sometimes I go through, shooting all points 1x, then repeat, with an HR or 2 or such separation of time.
I don't always keep track of the point number.
Letting it "find current cluster" is a good thing. For field review.
Nate
 

gstjohn

New Member
How would I uncluster points, just delete the averages from the points menu?
Also when I ran cluster average, the routine changed all the descriptions to "cluster average". Is there a way to maintain one of the descriptions?
 

Wes Hand

Active Member
I put all my cluster averages on a separate page called AVERAGE. Gives me the ability to quickly delete them so I can recluster additional observations after the first cluster average....or yes you can select them individually.

Under cluster average/copy from first point/ choose description and that should stop the cluster average from showing up in the description
 

Matthew D. Sibole

Well-Known Member
5PLS
You can also add a prefix such as a 1 or 2. That would make the average of point 100, 101 and 102 to be 1100 and so on. Then you can use the point number filter 1100..1900 and grab all clusters.
 

gstjohn

New Member
Oh, great. I get that. I've been skipping single points.
What if I wanted to accept the averaged results and not see the points that were used to calculate the average?
I'd like to separate single points from the ones used in the average for export.
 

Matthew D. Sibole

Well-Known Member
5PLS
Then you can just choose to export points on your averages page.

When you export you can tell it to export points on specific pages.
 

Wes Hand

Active Member
When you say not see them I’m assuming you mean in the exported text/csv file? If so putting the averaged points on a separate destination page might be what you are looking for. I think everyone develops a workflow for themselves but I have a survey page and an average page that is the only Pages that get exported with my surveyed/collected data. I just open up my csv file and delete all the individual observations. I may have 4000.1, 4000.2, 4000.3 in there but I erase them and leave the averaged point 4000. I’m sure there are other ways but that works for me.
 

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
I've got cluster average set up to use the PT desc from the 1st point.
And add A to the point name.
Points 67, 68, and 69
Becomes 67A.
As this comes into cad, all 4 points show up.
I then change layers of pts 67, 68, 69 to be on layer 0hid. The leading 0 puts this layer near the top.
Now, this set of 4 pnts becomes one point.
When I got my LS plus, I had to set it up for how I work. Any time I need to know shot spread, it's easy.
Nate
 
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