Javad DPOS and Triumph 1/LS

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
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Alexey,
I collected this file a couple of days ago with a Triumph-2. It's a 20 hour file collected at 1 second rate. I sent the jps file directly to DPOS and I converted the jps file to RINEX using JPS2RIN and parsed the file to 30 seconds for OPUS. The receiver mount is a 5/8"x11 thread, so I threaded the adapter to the mount and the Triumph-2 to the adapter. I entered a height of 0.025m for both OPUS and DPOS. These are the results:

OPUS
REF FRAME: NAD_83(2011)(EPOCH:2010.0000) IGS08 (EPOCH:2016.0607)

X: -454272.367(m) 0.008(m) -454273.169(m) 0.008(m)
Y: -5373356.057(m) 0.001(m) -5373354.609(m) 0.001(m)
Z: 3394830.308(m) 0.002(m) 3394830.141(m) 0.002(m)

LAT: 32 21 57.50368 0.003(m) 32 21 57.52300 0.003(m)
E LON: 265 10 3.40119 0.007(m) 265 10 3.36596 0.007(m)
W LON: 94 49 56.59881 0.007(m) 94 49 56.63404 0.007(m)
EL HGT: 96.469(m) 0.001(m) 95.218(m) 0.001(m)
ORTHO HGT: 122.842(m) 0.012(m) [NAVD88 (Computed using GEOID12B)]

UTM COORDINATES STATE PLANE COORDINATES
UTM (Zone 15) SPC (4202 TXNC)
Northing (Y) [meters] 3582478.327 2083571.698
Easting (X) [meters] 327599.474 945090.941

DPOS
REF FRAME: NAD83(2011)(EPOCH:2010.0000) IGS08 (EPOCH:2016.0589)

X: -454272.368(m) 0.001(m) -454273.170(m) 0.001(m)
Y: -5373356.068(m) 0.001(m) -5373354.620(m) 0.001(m)
Z: 3394830.317(m) 0.001(m) 3394830.149(m) 0.001(m)

LAT: N 32 21 57.50373 0.001(m) N 32 21 57.52303 0.001(m)
E LON:E 265 10 03.40118 0.001(m) E 265 10 03.36594 0.001(m)
W LON: W 94 49 56.59882 0.001(m) W 94 49 56.63406 0.001(m)
EL HGT: 96.482(m) 0.002(m) 95.231(m) 0.002(m)
ORTHO HGT: 122.855(m) 0.002(m) [NAVD88 (Computed using GEOID12A)]

UTM COORDINATES STATE PLANE COORDINATES
UTM (Zone 15) SPC (NAD83(2011) /4202 Texas North Central)
Northing (Y) [meters] 3582478.329 2083571.700
Easting (X) [meters] 327599.473 945090.941

Historically, this point has been observed to have coordinates of
N 2083571.680m
E 945090.928m
H 96.450m
Texas State Plane Coordinate System 1983, North Central Zone. Ellipsoid Height.
 
Alexey Razumovsky

Alexey Razumovsky

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Shawn Billings said:
Alexey,
I collected this file a couple of days ago with a Triumph-2. It's a 20 hour file collected at 1 second rate. I sent the jps file directly to DPOS and I converted the jps file to RINEX using JPS2RIN and parsed the file to 30 seconds for OPUS. The receiver mount is a 5/8"x11 thread, so I threaded the adapter to the mount and the Triumph-2 to the adapter. I entered a height of 0.025m for both OPUS and DPOS. These are the results:

OPUS
REF FRAME: NAD_83(2011)(EPOCH:2010.0000) IGS08 (EPOCH:2016.0607)

X: -454272.367(m) 0.008(m) -454273.169(m) 0.008(m)
Y: -5373356.057(m) 0.001(m) -5373354.609(m) 0.001(m)
Z: 3394830.308(m) 0.002(m) 3394830.141(m) 0.002(m)

LAT: 32 21 57.50368 0.003(m) 32 21 57.52300 0.003(m)
E LON: 265 10 3.40119 0.007(m) 265 10 3.36596 0.007(m)
W LON: 94 49 56.59881 0.007(m) 94 49 56.63404 0.007(m)
EL HGT: 96.469(m) 0.001(m) 95.218(m) 0.001(m)
ORTHO HGT: 122.842(m) 0.012(m) [NAVD88 (Computed using GEOID12B)]

UTM COORDINATES STATE PLANE COORDINATES
UTM (Zone 15) SPC (4202 TXNC)
Northing (Y) [meters] 3582478.327 2083571.698
Easting (X) [meters] 327599.474 945090.941

DPOS
REF FRAME: NAD83(2011)(EPOCH:2010.0000) IGS08 (EPOCH:2016.0589)

X: -454272.368(m) 0.001(m) -454273.170(m) 0.001(m)
Y: -5373356.068(m) 0.001(m) -5373354.620(m) 0.001(m)
Z: 3394830.317(m) 0.001(m) 3394830.149(m) 0.001(m)

LAT: N 32 21 57.50373 0.001(m) N 32 21 57.52303 0.001(m)
E LON:E 265 10 03.40118 0.001(m) E 265 10 03.36594 0.001(m)
W LON: W 94 49 56.59882 0.001(m) W 94 49 56.63406 0.001(m)
EL HGT: 96.482(m) 0.002(m) 95.231(m) 0.002(m)
ORTHO HGT: 122.855(m) 0.002(m) [NAVD88 (Computed using GEOID12A)]

UTM COORDINATES STATE PLANE COORDINATES
UTM (Zone 15) SPC (NAD83(2011) /4202 Texas North Central)
Northing (Y) [meters] 3582478.329 2083571.700
Easting (X) [meters] 327599.473 945090.941

Historically, this point has been observed to have coordinates of
N 2083571.680m
E 945090.928m
H 96.450m
Texas State Plane Coordinate System 1983, North Central Zone. Ellipsoid Height.
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Great, 0.02 m height mismatching is still pressed my conscience. Is it possible to repeat test with some other receiver?
 
Adam

Adam

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I have two Spectra units. Alexey, I can set them to collect data on a known point I have at my office. Will DPOS process the file from the Spectra's?
 
Adam

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Alexey, I dont have any data from the Triumph 2 on this point and the T2 is in San Jose. Michael said I should get it maybe this week sometime.
 
Alexey Razumovsky

Alexey Razumovsky

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No, it won't. Send me RINEXed Spectra files. I'll convert them to jps with Justin. Don't forget about Triumph-2 data. It's our objective! OPUS also.
 
Adam

Adam

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I can observe longer if you like, I am working at the office today. I will get the Triumph 2 on the point when it comes in.
 
Adam

Adam

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Alexey Razumovsky said:
4 hours is enough.
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Alexey, I have my Triumph 2 back! I should have some data for you in the next day or two. I have two concrete monuments placed at the same height and located a couple feet apart in nice open sky conditions as test points. I will be able to collect simultaneous data on the Triumph 2 and the other receiver. I use the adapter with the Triumph 2 on an adjustable pole. Because of the adjustable poles I can basically zero the receivers to each other, this would result in sending in a hieght of zero to opus. I can observe using a height of .025m like Shawn if you would prefer.
 
Alexey Razumovsky

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Hi, Adam. Could you, please, take a picture of receiver mounting? So I need files and pictures with pointing height measuremt point. Thank.
 
Adam

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Alexey, I've attached the OPUS and DPOS reports for the testing I performed Saturday. For this test I have 2 control monuments in my back yard set at the same height. I mounted each reciever on prism poles having the same height. The Triumph 2 had the 25mm adapter so the Height entered in the DPOS and OPUS submitall was 0.025m. The height of the Epoch 50 was 0.000m. I occupied for 4+ hrs then swapped the recievers and occupied for 4+ more hours. When I submitted the file to OPUS I left it in .jps format and OPUS did the conversion, I think something is going on in the conversion process. I waited until this morning and submitted to OPUS a second time as well. Here's my summary of the results. The Triumph 2 DPOS solutions agree within reason with the Epoch 50 OPUS solutions. The Truimph 2 OPUS solutions are all over the place vertically and, on point A there is a notable descripancy in horizontal values. I used 0.025m and 0m heights for the reports, The rod heights were 5.00' The elevation I have for the monuments is 989.060', which is within a few hundredths of foot of the DPOS Solutions.

Here are the Orthometric Heights US survey feet

Point A

Triumph 2 DPOS - 994.030' 1st OPUS - 994.289' 2nd OPUS - 994.335'

Epoch 50 OPUS - 994.004'

Point B

Triumph 2 DPOS - 994.020' 1ST OPUS - 994.073' 2ND OPUS - 994.152'

Epoch 50 OPUS - 994.030'
 

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  • TRIUMPH 2 - OPUS solution Point A _ log0130a 2nd process.pdf
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  • TRIUMPH 2 DPOS solution Point A_ log0130a.pdf
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Adam

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Alexey, I tried to upload the reciever files to this post but it states that I can't upload them. May I email them to you?
 

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Alexey Razumovsky

Alexey Razumovsky

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Adam said:
Alexey, I tried to upload the reciever files to this post but it states that I can't upload them. May I email them to you?
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I am out of office at the moment. In ten hours I will mail you access to data repository for files. I am very happy to get data. Great!
 
Adam

Adam

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I tried to log in to the storage web page with by copying and pasting the credentials above but It will not log in?

It is now allowing me to log in. Alexey the files are on there.
 
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Administrator

Administrator

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Hi, Adam.
Please try again and copy password attentively.
I test just now and everything is good.
 
Adam

Adam

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Xen, the files should be on the server, The password worked okay after I tried again.
 
Alexey Razumovsky

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Here are the results of Adam's job (heights in meters)
DPOS OPUS

Triumph-2-14-18 271.083 271.176

Triumph-2-18-22 271.080 271.130

Epoch50-14-18 271.084 271.080

Epoch50-18-22 271.076 271.080

It seems OPUS does not treat correctly Triumph-2 antenna parameters. I kindly ask everybody to continue investigation. It is a big problem. First of all I'd like to compare Triumph-2 and Triumph-1 receivers.
 
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