New changes and options with new LS Plus

Aaron S

Active Member
I was able to talk someone into giving me $5700 to upgrade my old TLS to a TLS+. When they're done, will my old/upgraded unit be essentially the same as a new, off-the-shelf TLS+? In other words, will it be as capable as a unit bought today right off the website with the + option?
 

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
I was able to talk someone into giving me $5700 to upgrade my old TLS to a TLS+. When they're done, will my old/upgraded unit be essentially the same as a new, off-the-shelf TLS+? In other words, will it be as capable as a unit bought today right off the website with the + option?

No. The $5,700 covers the cost of installing the new GNSS board and in the case of the $5,700 upgrade, new batteries. They will run diagnostics on it before sending it back, so if anything comes up, they'll ask you if you want to address the issue and what the cost would be.

If you do have any issues, now would probably be the time to address them, since you're already doing without it, incurred the shipping cost, them opening it up, etc.
 

Aaron S

Active Member
No. The $5,700 covers the cost of installing the new GNSS board and in the case of the $5,700 upgrade, new batteries. They will run diagnostics on it before sending it back, so if anything comes up, they'll ask you if you want to address the issue and what the cost would be.

If you do have any issues, now would probably be the time to address them, since you're already doing without it, incurred the shipping cost, them opening it up, etc.

I might have poorly worded my question. There's nothing wrong with my LS currently. I meant will it now have all the same measurement capabilities (performance boost in thick canopy for example) as an off the shelf LS+?

As an illustration: Let's say I bought an LS a year ago and also purchased every upgrade available at the time. Now I send it in and add the LS+ upgrade. Another guy goes out today and buys an LS+ with all the options available today (excluding RTPK). Would you expect those two units to perform the same collecting points?
 

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
I see your question now. The answer is "yes" and "no". The hardware is under constant revision. It's quite possible that your LS has slightly different components than what would be put in a new Triumph-LS/LS+. Slightly different builds are common and occur for a variety of reasons. However, from a performance perspective, I would not expect much if any difference between your upgraded LS and a new one off the factory floor.
 

JWC

New Member
The plan is for it to be available for both Standard Triumph-LS and Triumph-LS Plus. It's planned to be a chargeable upgrade for both. Pricing has not yet been announced, but the pricing I've heard is very reasonable for the improvement in power. You will want a base that is transmitting multi-constellation corrections to really get the full benefit of RTPK. I think it will ultimately make a significant positive change in how we verify collection in bad environments.
After upgrading one of our Triumph LS to a Plus in January 2023, we cannot send data from one(either) TLS to the other. The TLS sends the data to itself. In support, options update, RTPK is not green or highlighted and we have not paid for it, however, we have it and have used it for at least two years. The biggest problem it seems, is when we are using the two Triumph LS Plus Receivers at the same time, on two different RTN Networks, one will work great and the other renders itself almost useless. Thanks for any help.
 

Adam Plumley

Active Member
JAVAD GNSS
After upgrading one of our Triumph LS to a Plus in January 2023, we cannot send data from one(either) TLS to the other. The TLS sends the data to itself. In support, options update, RTPK is not green or highlighted and we have not paid for it, however, we have it and have used it for at least two years. The biggest problem it seems, is when we are using the two Triumph LS Plus Receivers at the same time, on two different RTN Networks, one will work great and the other renders itself almost useless. Thanks for any help.
Can you provide a little more information? I can look up what options you actually have turned on if you will send me the s.n.'s.

What do you mean by send data from one to the other? Do you mean using the TLS2TLS icon?

What are the networks and which mointpoints are you using?
 

JWC

New Member
Can you provide a little more information? I can look up what options you actually have turned on if you will send me the s.n.'s.

What do you mean by send data from one to the other? Do you mean using the TLS2TLS icon?

What are the networks and which mointpoints are you using?
Yes. TL2 to TLS2. SN 727 & 771. NC RTN MP RTCM32. SC MP RTCM32.
 

Adam Plumley

Active Member
JAVAD GNSS
727 has the RTPK option.
771 does not.

Can you set both of those on remote assistance when you have time?

Jim, give me a call later today and I can look into it. 704-477-7128
 

JWC

New Member
727 has the RTPK option.
771 does not.

Can you set both of those on remote assistance when you have time?

Jim, give me a call later today and I can look into it. 704-477-7128
Both actually have RTPK. Not sure why? WE have been using RTPK on both machines for about two years. 771 seems to be a clone of 727 regardless of what the working Options are. RTPK works well on both machines, and when we try to send a file from one to the other (TL2 TO TLS2) the machine we send from, receives the file. It sends it to itself. Both units were purchased at the same time. Just wondering if Javad knows what Oaf files (or other files) it is sending to each of the units? How could RTPK work, if not paid for, and the option is not shown on the unit? The biggest problem is when we try to use them at the same time, one works great and the other hardly works at all, even on two different RTN'S. Makes no sense to me. My crews are out of town until tomorrow with both units. I will give you a call when I can. Thanks for your help!
 

Jim Campi

Active Member
Darren,
Is the $5000 LS upgrade to LS plus still offered?

What happens to the options that were purchased with the LS? Do they stay with original equipment?
 

Jim Campi

Active Member
That is highly unfortunate, I didn't know this was a limited time offer. Next time I will not lollygag so long. One more quick question on this issue. Can we transfer the options we have purchased to the LS+ or do we purchase them again for the new unit?

Is the LS as base and LS plus as rover just as good or better than the ls plus and T3. It sounds like the former may be the superior option. Or is there a good reason to buy the T3 also?
 

pappassurveyor

Member
5PLS
That is highly unfortunate, I didn't know this was a limited time offer. Next time I will not lollygag so long. One more quick question on this issue. Can we transfer the options we have purchased to the LS+ or do we purchase them again for the new unit?

Is the LS as base and LS plus as rover just as good or better than the ls plus and T3. It sounds like the former may be the superior option. Or is there a good reason to buy the T3 also?
The LS work good as a base, I have used it quite a lot over the years. I can't remember the exact frequencies that the T# can read the the LS cannot but it is minimal. LS and LS+ is a good combination. The option are not transferable. but more of the options are standard on the pricing for the LS+
 
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