OK, Let's Build an LS, how WE WANT it....

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
If you export a pdf file there are options to include all the screenshots including those of the Processed Point Info screen.

Is there some way to automatically generate screen captures of the processed point information screen or are you suggesting the user manually create screen captures? I haven't seen an option for this.

For the record, I think Justin Link should be expanded to allow archive projects to be opened, evaluated (similar to the features available in the Points screen in J-Field) and exported. Currently this is not possible, but if it were, it would allow project managers to review projects without the need of the LS.
 

Matt Johnson

Well-Known Member
5PLS
Is there some way to automatically generate screen captures of the processed point information screen

Yes, the Report Screenshots option in the Menu from the Points screen.


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Steve Douty

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Is there some way to automatically generate screen captures of the processed point information screen or are you suggesting the user manually create screen captures? I haven't seen an option for this.

For the record, I think Justin Link should be expanded to allow archive projects to be opened, evaluated (similar to the features available in the Points screen in J-Field) and exported. Currently this is not possible, but if it were, it would allow project managers to review projects without the need of the LS.
Shawn,
That is what I have been trying to say for months. Thanks for saying it in a way that is clear!
 

Matt Johnson

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5PLS
Shawn,
That is what I have been trying to say for months. Thanks for saying it in a way that is clear!

My understanding is that you also wanted to be able to edit the project's database and make changes to which coordinate is selected for each point (RTK, PPK or CORS). This would be much more difficult and complicated.
 

Steve Douty

Well-Known Member
My understanding is that you also wanted to be able to edit the project's database and make changes to which coordinate is selected for each point (RTK, PPK or CORS). This would be much more difficult and complicated.
You are correct. I would LOVE a full emulator of the LS. It would be great for training, developing profiles, revisiting and re-evaluating projects, and lots more. It's like everything else in life, I just want to get my nose under the tent.
 

Clay Davidson

Active Member
How about a document reader (pdf, png, txt, word...etc). Then you could go paperless. I used to do this with other data collectors. It worked well. Especially in the rain.

I do love the LS. I wouldn't use any other system after switching from Topcon. No other system does static and RTK at the same time in the same collector with so much ease.
 

Nate The Surveyor

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I wish we could take an observation on 2 intervisable points, and USE these 2 intervisable points to more precisely index, or set the declination for the internal compass.
 

Matt Johnson

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5PLS
I wish we could take an observation on 2 intervisable points, and USE these 2 intervisable points to more precisely index, or set the declination for the internal compass.

The compass is an electronic compass so it determines north from magnetic north. It is not a gyroscope that needs to be initialized to a known bearing.
 

Nate The Surveyor

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It can still be indexed.
It's been consistently off by 2 degrees, in the same direction, in my area. Could be local attraction, from my area.
 

Matt Johnson

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5PLS
It can still be indexed.
It's been consistently off by 2 degrees, in the same direction, in my area. Could be local attraction, from my area.

If it is consistently off by 2 degrees in the same direction then there may be a problem with the transformation of the bearing from magnetic north to grid north that should be checked. Locational variances are accounted for using the World Magnetic Model of 2015.
 

Nate The Surveyor

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Matt, it's been this way since I've had it.
There's a nearby place called "magnet cove" it's about 30 miles by 50 miles, where declination goes to pot.
 

Clay Davidson

Active Member
Nate said his is off 2 deg. If it is magnetic then there has to be error in it. So how accurate is the compass +\- 2 deg, 30 seconds? If it knew exactly whitch bearing it was facing you could get 1 bearing and 1 distance to an object and be exact.
 

Clay Davidson

Active Member
I'm noy saying it's not a great feature. I like the compass, but I don't trust it to do certain tasks. If it knew the exact bearing it was facing and had a EDM then you would pretty much have a total station in the LS. Wouldn't that be AWSOME. My thanks to JAVAD and this great instrument that makes me a better Surveyor.
 

Matt Johnson

Well-Known Member
5PLS
If the compass is properly calibrated and you not close to any ferrous objects which might affect it, then the accuracy spec is about +/- 1 degree I believe.
 

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
That maybe true for the accuracy of the sensor. And, we have gone to great lengths to compensate for magnetic declination and the convergence (or mapping) angle. However, as I think about it there are errors that might not currently be accounted for. The main one I can imagine is the misalignment of the magnetometer with the center of the camera. If the magnetometer sensor is not perfectly aligned with the housing and the camera is not perfectly aligned with the housing then there is a potential for error. This error could be compensated for by indexing. I don't know that this is part of the manufacturing process. It probably deserves deeper investigation.
 

Jim Frame

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For me the compass and the tilt sensor are guidance tools rather than measurement tools. Neither is accurate enough to use for survey-grade measurements, in my opinion, and I don't rely on either one.
 
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