Spoof Alert

[Kelly Bellis]

The recent Spoof Busters article has me wondering: when should I expect that my Triumph LS might provide a Spoof Alert notice?

What would be nice is if the location of the source could be approximated and also reported in such a Spoof Alert.

 

[Matt Johnson]

I don’t believe there have been any documented cases of spoofing in the US yet. The article discusses how to determine the direction the spoofing signals are coming from.

See http://money.cnn.com/video/technolo...gps-spoofing-lon-orig-mkd.cnnmoney/index.html for more information about spoofing.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

https://medium.com/@theappninjas/what-are-gps-spoofing-apps-actually-doing-5c9f373540c4

 

[Matt Johnson]

https://medium.com/@theappninjas/what-are-gps-spoofing-apps-actually-doing-5c9f373540c4

This article is not discussing real spoofing of GNSS signals which is what Javad chips and GNSS firmware can detect now. The article is only discussing spoofing of mobile applications position through software which is totally different.

 

[Sean Joyce]

I would be concerned if I was using an F1 a lot.

 

[Chance Phillips]

"When we detect that spoofing is in effect, we use the position solution provided by all other clean signals to ignore the spoofed measurement and use the real measurement. If all signals are spoofed, then we alarm you to ignore GNSS and use other sensors in your integrated system."

I'm already alarmed. The question is, are current owners of the Triumph-LS covered?

 

[John Evers]

yes

 

[Kelly Bellis]

Thanks John!

 

[Kelly Bellis]

I don’t believe there have been any documented cases of spoofing in the US yet. The article discusses how to determine the direction the spoofing signals are coming from.

See http://money.cnn.com/video/technolo...gps-spoofing-lon-orig-mkd.cnnmoney/index.html for more information about spoofing.

Thank you Matt.

 

[Matt Johnson]

The question is, are current owners of the Triumph-LS covered?

GNSS firmware and updates to J-Field will be needed. I believe this feature is still only in development builds of the firmware and software.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

If all signals are spoofed, then we alarm you to ignore GNSS and use other sensors in your integrated system."

What are "other sensors in your integrated system"?
Thank you
N

 

[Matt Johnson]

It could be a variety of sensors that would be used with a Javad OEM board in a navigation system. Spoofing is much more a danger to navigation systems than it is to land surveyors. A land surveyor will obviously know something is wrong and not to use a solution if the position being reported is many miles away from where it should be.

 

[Kelly Bellis]

Spoofing is much more a danger to navigation systems than it is to land surveyors. A land surveyor will obviously know something is wrong and not to use a solution if the position being reported is many miles away from where it should be.

I agree Matt; however I'm also thinking like Sean, though not explicitly with the F1 in mind, but if any UAV gets spoofed, there will be undesired results.

 

[Matt Johnson]

Spoofing is definitely a concern for UAVs. This is why you see locations being spoofed to locations of airports, because UAV firmware prevents them from flying near airports.

 

[Kelly Bellis]

"When we detect that spoofing is in effect, we use the position solution provided by all other clean signals to ignore the spoofed measurement and use the real measurement. If all signals are spoofed, then we alarm you to ignore GNSS and use other sensors in your integrated system."

I'm already alarmed. The question is, are current owners of the Triumph-LS covered?

yes

John, could you have spoken ]yes[ too soon? Or has the policy changed since the original article was posted and your November 26, 2017 response? I only ask because it appears that we're only covered if we purchase Spoofing Detection. Is that correct?

 

[Chance Phillips]

Maybe Mr. Glutting would answer this question?

 

[Javad]

Spoofing detection is an option that can be purchased any time. It is NOT included in the standard features among many other features that are not standard.

 

[Kelly Bellis]

Thank you for the reply. How much does spoofing protection cost?

 

[Shawn Billings]

 

[Kelly Bellis]

Thanks Shawn. Where did you find that?