Aaron S
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It's at 15' usually. What type of tripod do you use to get up to 25'?
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It's at 15' usually. What type of tripod do you use to get up to 25'?
Nate The Surveyor
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I have a 25' Hixon brand prism pole.
Drive a steel t post near the base, and bungie the pole To it. In the event of high winds, it leans, but does not break.
I also have a set of these:
When working in tough environments, there is simply no alternative. Get it up. 35' mast would be my suggestion.
Nate
Drive a steel t post near the base, and bungie the pole To it. In the event of high winds, it leans, but does not break.
I also have a set of these:
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Sean Joyce
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Nate The Surveyor
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Well, I'd drive a steel fence post, and bungie to it. If it were too windy, I'd try para cord, 3 pcs. Tie it 3 ways. The tripod way is too susceptible to gusts of wind.
Sean Joyce
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Wind has never been a problem, all the surfaces are round and not conducive to wind loading. The tripod is set up lower than normal and the legs are spread wide and planted deep in the ground as is the bottom of the pole. The only issue when extending it up more than 3 sections is the play in the 25' rod joints which guy lines would correct if going higher.. Don't need to spend time with extraneous stuff and a tower construction project to get up and running. You must have gale force winds down there Nate. If it is that windy I probably wouldn't be working in any wooded areas because the multipath from moving trees would be difficult.
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Nate The Surveyor
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I had my Hixon 20' pole blown over, by a freak afternoon thunderstorm. Bent it up some. After that, I went to the T post.
Never looked back. It takes me about 1 minute to do.
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Never looked back. It takes me about 1 minute to do.
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Aaron S
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I take it your radio has an internal battery? It looks like a small rubber antenna is attached so there are no cables to run down to the ground. But my radio has a longer antenna (with a cable) and needs a an external battery. I wonder if it's better to have a long antenna cable and keep the radio down on the tripod, or put the radio up in the air and have a long battery cable to the ground?I posted this before but here is how I do it. to run it up 25 feet which I have never done I would put guy lines on it. Birds like to land on it.
Nate The Surveyor
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In trajectory, at the storing of every point, I'd sure like it if the LS would make noise, and the flashlight flash.
When walking, with the LS, and doing trajectory, you want to hear it, clicking, so you know if either brief radio interference stopped it for a bit, or if it lost lock, walking under a tree.
Same with flashlight. On an ATV, I'm working on a mirror, so that I can mount the LS a little higher than my head, I can watch where I'm going, and I could keep up with the flashing cadence of the light on the bottom of the LS.
Some places, it's critical, and other places it's not.
But, this seems like a viable solution.
Just allowing the flashlight and sound, to work in trajectory, would allow a lot more things. Thank you.
Nate
When walking, with the LS, and doing trajectory, you want to hear it, clicking, so you know if either brief radio interference stopped it for a bit, or if it lost lock, walking under a tree.
Same with flashlight. On an ATV, I'm working on a mirror, so that I can mount the LS a little higher than my head, I can watch where I'm going, and I could keep up with the flashing cadence of the light on the bottom of the LS.
Some places, it's critical, and other places it's not.
But, this seems like a viable solution.
Just allowing the flashlight and sound, to work in trajectory, would allow a lot more things. Thank you.
Nate
Sean Joyce
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Aaron
I have the SS 1 watt so with bluetooth so it is really simple for me to just elevate the radio. You would definitely need to leave the radio on the ground and use a cable.
It really boils down to what you are going to use for a mast and whats going to support the mast. I just used what I had and made a bracket for the radio. Nate has a good solution, or maybe you can come up with even another way. Let us know what you end up doing.
Nate The Surveyor
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@Sean Joyce
Sean, if you can put a cable on that one watt radio, with a 5/8 gain antenna, and a ground plane, and run it up tall, you will effectively gain quite a bit of range. Penetration though, it'd be good to get at least 10 watts.
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Sean, if you can put a cable on that one watt radio, with a 5/8 gain antenna, and a ground plane, and run it up tall, you will effectively gain quite a bit of range. Penetration though, it'd be good to get at least 10 watts.
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Aaron S
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As far as the mast goes, I'm thinking of getting a 25' Hixon pole, and then pound a temporary t-post in and tie it to that like Nate is suggesting. I don't know how much a pole like that will flex when it's extended to that length, but there's rarely any significant wind around here.
For the radio itself, I would like to keep it down towards the ground, so it doesn't make the pole sway too much at the top. The question then is, what kind of cord will I need for the antenna? I'm sure it's not as simple as an "extension cord". To keep the signal at it's best/strongest, there's probably some considerations I'm not aware of.
Nate The Surveyor
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If you get the 25' Hixon pole, put a quick connect/disconnect on it, to
1.) Make it faster.
2.) Make it so you don't have to twist it to screw it together, every time you set it up.
All the stuff you need is available on the javad products site.
Nate
1.) Make it faster.
2.) Make it so you don't have to twist it to screw it together, every time you set it up.
All the stuff you need is available on the javad products site.
Nate
Nate The Surveyor
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Hixon poles are precision poles. Nicer than you need for an antenna.
Pole saws, swimming pool skimmers, painters, light bulb changers, (for tall roofs) all use long poles. I think you could get-er-done, for less money.
Pole saws, swimming pool skimmers, painters, light bulb changers, (for tall roofs) all use long poles. I think you could get-er-done, for less money.
Nate The Surveyor
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It looks like pole saw poles could be the ticket:
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David Held
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I would love to be able to import a surface model from an XML file and be able to place a grade stake at whatever random location is convenient based on the surface model. We do a lot of work on active landfill sites and gravel excavation sites where this would be invaluable. I'm assuming it would be a huge benefit on any site involving mass excavation as not all contractors utilize machine control.
Nate The Surveyor
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Well, now that the t3 is out... And it has an internal 1 watt transceiver, how about a 35 watt duplex radio? This would allow it to run as a repeater, using 2 channels, (one to transmit, one to receive), and would not add signal latency. If this is done, then we should be able to change power, and frequency settings, without a shutdown.
Thanks!
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Thanks!
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This is already possible, just not with Base/Rover Setup in J-Field.
Nate The Surveyor
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Ok.... Matt, that's all I have. How do you do it?
I believe JAVAD Mobile Tools for Android devices allows you to change radio parameters. Radio parameters for repeaters can be changed with the External Radio button in the UHF screen of J-Field. If you wanted to change the base radio parameters you would need to use Net View & Modem. Base/Rover Setup does not allow changing the base radio parameters after the base has been started but it is only a software limitation, not a hardware limitation.