Triumph LS Rover Rod

[Jim Campi]

I noticed there is a new rover rod on the accessories page.

Is the new rod available for shipping?

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

Are you talking about the monopod? I just got mine Friday Night, and it came with a BENRO brand monopod. With level, and Javad Logo.

 

[JBrinkworth]

Are you talking about the monopod? I just got mine Friday Night, and it came with a BENRO brand monopod. With level, and Javad Logo.

Nate,

Did you get the monopod with the double bubble?

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

Yes. it is the double bubble.
It seems like a quite nice mono pod. I'd like to modify it, to include a LONGER foot at the bottom, and a LARGER ring that stops it from going deep in the mud. So that I can set it in the marsh, and press the monopod into the soil, with my foot, pressing on the top of the ring, with my boot. Probably a 6" spike at the bottom would do the trick. This way, I can basically STICK it in the soil, and not have to hold it. Why do I modify everything I get my grippers on? "Cause I'm a surveyor!".
Nate

 

[Donald E Robinson]

Did you receive any discount?

 

[Matt Johnson]

Nate, Javad offers a longer pole tip option that is about 6" long:

I'm not sure if anyone presented this option to you when you placed your order. I have it because I am 6'4" and wanted a longer pole but I also prefer and would recommend it to other customers for exactly the reason you state, that it be stuck into the soil deeper.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

From the black metal ring, to the tip is 0.30 feet long. You got the long tip. I did not. I told them I was tall, and they said they'd send me the "Long Tip". I reckon they forgot. Now, what I want is a larger ring. So my boot tip can catch on it.
Thanks Matt.
Nate

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

Here's a pic of mine. Are those put on with locktite? I'm a pretty big fan of silicone, to glue stuff on with, because, it seals out the water, and comes apart much more easily, when needed. Thanks Matt.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

They told me that they'd send a long tip. I think they forgot.
I made my own. I am not prone to wait....

N

 

[Matt Johnson]

They told me that they'd send a long tip. I think they forgot.
I made my own. I am not prone to wait....

N

Try adding a Comment to your order that you have not received this yet and let us know if you don't get a response then.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

A follow up post. Michael Gluting contacted me, and said basically "Sorry, we'll get you a long point out soon".

Well, I have done that to my clients before too, so I understand. However, I did make my own:

It's an 8" long sharpened spike. With a large flat washer.
And, in critiquing my own work, I have this to say.

I wish it were tapered, and went from a small sharp point, Like the standard stock point, up to about 1" or 1-1/4" dia.
Tapered would make it get tighter in the soil, as it goes down. This would make it tighter in the soil. You could press on one side, or the other to plumb it. Also, this brings up another point. I wish the LS had a little scale on the bottom of it, in tenths and hundredths. I carry a plumb bob.
IF I am doing a stakeout, and I press the LS on monopod, into the soil, and it falls off plumb, I use my plumb bob to determine the actual location, (Usually a fully verified shot) where the shot was taken. Then, I use the "Foreward, Backward, left right" to set the corner. I always re observe the SET monument. (Old and good habit).
So, I have learned this:
I'd like a POINT for the monopod, that is ALUMINUM. Tapered. With a screw in replaceable metal point. It could be ribbed, or smooth.
and, the aluminum part, could be 7-10" long. And, built into the aluminum point, is a spot for placing the foot, and pressing it into the soil.
IF the tapered aluminum part were made with a scale in the bottom part, that would be neat too. Again, tenths, and hundredths.
IF the tapered aluminum part were semi-square, or fluted, the scale could be in the fluted parts, where the markings would not wear too fast.

You know how it is. You have a good idea, then a better one, then a better one....

Keep up the good work!

Nate

 

[party chief3]

Nate, I like the tip you have there. In the sandy/clay to clayey/sand soils here in N Florida that long point would make a bit more sense. I can see how it might not serve so well in your rocky/loam to loamy/rock. That foot ring is important to me too for rod wear pushing down all the time. Think I will look into the guard-ring affair in the store so I can lay it down when not collecting.
I did go to my favorite hardware for a bolt as a topo foot and I also picked up some rubber chair feet pads for slippery/muddy topo.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

Mine is an 8" bolt, with the head cut off, and the tip sharpened. The washer I got from another surveyor. It's thicker and stronger than a fender washer.
I'm perpetually cobbling.. if only in my head! I do think of lots of things.
N

 

[Patrick Garner]

I concur with party chief3: the point type depends on the soil. Here in Mass., we tend to have loam everywhere that's about 8-10" deep. The monopod tip sinks right into the ground and accurate elevations become problematic. I love Nate's wide washer. That stops the tip sinking too deeply, so that'll be an immediate modification that I add to my list. But clearly the monopod tip becomes soil dependent. Another option: SECO makes what they call a "Topo Shoe" for this same purpose. I think the screw is compatible with the monopod. Here's an example: http://www.baselineequipment.com/page_200_506/seco-topo-shoes

 

[Adam]

Nate, I like the tip you have there. In the sandy/clay to clayey/sand soils here in N Florida that long point would make a bit more sense. I can see how it might not serve so well in your rocky/loam to loamy/rock. That foot ring is important to me too for rod wear pushing down all the time. Think I will look into the guard-ring affair in the store so I can lay it down when not collecting.
I did go to my favorite hardware for a bolt as a topo foot and I also picked up some rubber chair feet pads for slippery/muddy topo.

The top mount nut is now available for sale as well as the protective bumpers on the website under accessories. You could replace the top mount on the monopod. The bumpers work really well when laying down the LS. It will keep it out of the mud.

 

[Adam]

I concur with party chief3: the point type depends on the soil. Here in Mass., we tend to have loam everywhere that's about 8-10" deep. The monopod tip sinks right into the ground and accurate elevations become problematic. I love Nate's wide washer. That stops the tip sinking too deeply, so that'll be an immediate modification that I add to my list. But clearly the monopod tip becomes soil dependent. Another option: SECO makes what they call a "Topo Shoe" for this same purpose. I think the screw is compatible with the monopod. Here's an example: http://www.baselineequipment.com/page_200_506/seco-topo-shoes

These are 5/8 " x 11 threads and will not work on the mono pod.

 

[Patrick Garner]

These are 5/8 " x 11 threads and will not work on the mono pod.

Good heads up. Thanks, Adam.

 

[Aaron S]

Is there a way to get replacement parts for the monopod? The bottom clamp on mine snapped at the base of the hinge (looks like the metal just failed). I'm a big fan of the form of the monopod, but not impressed with its durability so far. It seems a bit "light duty" compared to a regular Seco aluminum pole, but that may just be the tradeoff you have to deal with.

 

[Patrick Garner]

It's possible Benro sells replacement pieces. Here's a link to what I think is the same monopod.

http://www.benrousa.com/products/benro-mad49c.aspx

Their website does not show any replacement parts.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

Spike with big washer, pics l8tr.
@Steve Douty