Triumph T3 and Weak Cell Areas

Rich Nelson

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I have a base location in my front yard that is geographically ideal for my base setup. However, the cell coverage is inconsistent—some days, the cell light on the base is green, and others, it’s red. When I move to another location, the light stays green, so I believe the issue is cell coverage at my house.

I've been exploring options to use my base reliably at home. I've been told that the internal cell is the only way to connect the base to the internet to get signals with the LS+. However, I’ve seen posts about connecting the base to WiFi, which makes me curious if it’s possible. I believe the need for a static IP so the LS+ knows where to get the corrections might be a factor.

If connecting to WiFi or a hotspot isn’t feasible, would a cell phone signal booster, like the Weboost products, help? Does anyone have experience with cell phone signal boosters?

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
 

Matt Johnson

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5PLS
You can transmit corrections through TCP using the WiFi at your home. A static IP is not needed. You just need to configure your router to forward the TCP output port to the local IP address of the base.
 

Rich Nelson

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Thank you, Matt, for your advice on transmitting corrections through TCP using my home WiFi. I believe I saw some posts about this, but they were dated several years ago. The principle should be the same, so I will search those again.

I have a couple of follow-up questions on connecting my base to WiFi:
  1. Configuration: I assume all configurations for connecting the base to WiFi are done through the LS+ interface. Is that correct? Are there any specific settings or steps I should follow within the LS+ to ensure a successful connection?
  2. Connecting to a Hotspot: Would the same procedure for connecting to home WiFi apply to connecting the base to a mobile hotspot (cell phone) instead? I don't recall seeing a configuration of TCP output on those.
Thank you again for your assistance!
 

Matt Johnson

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5PLS
I assume all configurations for connecting the base to WiFi are done through the LS+ interface. Is that correct?
This can be done through Remote Base in J-Field or with Netview. Auto IP should be disabled and an IP should be assigned so that the IP address of the base does not change.

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Would the same procedure for connecting to home WiFi apply to connecting the base to a mobile hotspot (cell phone) instead
Yes

Remember that you will need to configure the LS to connect the external IP address of the router. This can be found at http://whatismyipaddress.com/
 

John Rosco

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JAVAD GNSS
You can transmit corrections through TCP using the WiFi at your home. A static IP is not needed. You just need to configure your router to forward the TCP output port to the local IP address of the base.
Attached is an example interconnection diagram of a T-3 being used as a Static Reference Station using a 'local network' (LAN).
 

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Rich Nelson

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Thank you for the information. I now understand the concept better. I need to figure out the specifics of my home network setup. I can get the base to connect to my guest network but not to my main network.

In the Eero app, which manages my home network, I see the T3 listed among connected devices. However, when I try to set up port forwarding, I receive an error stating that it couldn't update the setting because the IP address assigned is outside of my subnet range. I don't want to mess with all the addresses and crash my home network and all connected devices.

You've set me on the right path, and I'll keep working on it.

Thanks so much for your help!
 

Rich Nelson

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Thanks, Matt and John, for your help! With your information, I was able to set up the base successfully. Now, I'm facing a networking issue rather than a Javad question. I connected and port-forwarded using my Fios Router in the basement. Unfortunately, the signal from the basement doesn't reach my yard. Relocating the router isn't feasible, so I'm considering setting up a wired access point on the side of my house or perhaps starting with an outlet WiFi extender.

For some reason, I got the base to connect to my Eero guest network but not the main one. The guest network doesn't seem to support port forwarding, and my thought is the WiFi tech used in the base might be an older version.

I'd welcome any recommendations if anyone has experience extending their network signal!
 

Matt Johnson

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5PLS
For some reason, I got the base to connect to my Eero guest network but not the main one. The guest network doesn't seem to support port forwarding, and my thought is the WiFi tech used in the base might be an older version.

I suspect the issue here is that your main network uses 5 GHz signal. The T3 supports 5 GHz (802.11a) but the LS does not so if you are trying to configure the WiFi through the LS you will need to manually enter the AP SSID as you will not be able to see it with the LS. There should also be an option in your router settings to enable a 2.4 GHz signal for the main network.
 

Rich Nelson

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I've managed to connect it to my main Eero network, but there's still something that's not quite right. My Fios router connected without any issues, so now I think it might be something I'm overlooking with the Eero. I've already set up the port forwarding...but that err just should not be there.
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Matt Johnson

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5PLS
In your screenshot it doesn't appear the base was started. If you can't connect try connecting the LS to the same wifi network and using your local port to connect (192.168.4.20) to see if that will work.
 

Rich Nelson

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I started the base; there was no change. I connected the LS+ to the same IP, and it could download background maps, so I believe the connection is fine. This is my latest screenshot.

Matt, do you have time to RAMS and take a look today?


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Matt Johnson

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5PLS
I had to enable Auto IP to get it to connect at first. I was able to connect through the local network but not from your external IP address. So it seems either the external IP address is wrong or the port forwarding is not configured properly.

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Rich Nelson

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Yes, it is ethernet to the fios router.
On my home network, I do not have a static IP I check it at the whatsmyipaddress and enter that as the APN IP.

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Rich Nelson

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I've had my Eero for several years, and it's a legacy item that no longer receives updates. Although tech support didn't initially think a replacement was necessary, I now believe there might be some incompatibility issues. Despite this, the units work flawlessly and are set up quickly with my Fios router. To bring WiFi coverage to my base station in the yard, I’ve decided to purchase a PoE Outdoor Access Point to connect to my Fios Router. I'll update you next week on how it goes if anyone else is considering a similar setup.
 
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Rich Nelson

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I wanted to provide an update on my WiFi setup. I purchased a Cudy Outdoor AP 1.0 and 100ft PoE wire connected to my Fios Router. I snaked the wire through the basement, out through the exterior wall, and mounted the AP on the house's exterior. After updating the firmware, I set up the T3/LS+ in under 10 minutes, and it works great!
 
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