user's guide for Victor-LS?

wanconm

Member
I thought the base sat light=green meaning eight or more was good and that even yellow=5 to 7 would be ok, not true?
 

wanconm

Member
Any idea why the base position light/triangle in a circle=green=fixed while the rover's is yellow=float like I set it and I not that the "to base" button is greyed/not available....also i think I saw something in the quick start manual that the bluetooth to the base just disconnects as you walk away over the 15m limit. also I get the impression that bluetooth is easily blocked, for example, by the edge of a table even if only eight feet away, true?
 

Matt Johnson

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5PLS
I think that for unfathomable reason my external antenna hpt404bt is considered internal. Does that seem right?

Are asking about the UHF Configuration screen:

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These are the options for the UHF radio inside the Victor-LS. It has an internal antenna. Optionally you could connect an external antenna that should have came with it and select the External option.

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Victor-LS External Antenna

you say Press Start Base and then Disconnect after the radio begins broadcasting, disconnect disconnects ALL bluetooth connections and the radio connection and it seems like the idea would be to disconnect just the bluetooth connection between Victor-LS and the base, just guessing

Disconnect in Base Rover Setup only disconnects the Bluetooth connection between the Victor-LS and the base. After it disconnects, the Victor-LS should automatically reconnect to the rover receiver.
 

Matt Johnson

Well-Known Member
5PLS
I thought the base sat light=green meaning eight or more was good and that even yellow=5 to 7 would be ok, not true?

This LED is only an indication of the number of satellites being tracked, not of the quality of the signals being received.
 

Matt Johnson

Well-Known Member
5PLS
Any idea why the base position light/triangle in a circle=green=fixed while the rover's is yellow=float like I set it and I not that the "to base" button is greyed/not available....also i think I saw something in the quick start manual that the bluetooth to the base just disconnects as you walk away over the 15m limit. also I get the impression that bluetooth is easily blocked, for example, by the edge of a table even if only eight feet away, true?

The Triumph-2 manuals shows what the LED lights mean:

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So the position light is green if the receiver is a base or is green if it is a rover with a fixed position.

A table would not block the Bluetooth signal but a wall might.
 

wanconm

Member
I'll try this tomorrow outside, I think I may actually have a clue, it seems that the idea is to bluetooth VictorLS to both rover and base, meaning close line of sight, use that connection to pair them for the radio, start the base and it will connect to the radio, after that you can walk away with the Victor LS and rover breaking the bluetooth to the base while the radio now does the communication link. to finish I think I saw where you have to reestablish the bluetooth to the base. One problem I may have been having was the edge of the table blocking the bluetooth to the base.
 

wanconm

Member
Ok, I get the green light...makes sense in hind sight, no need to fix/float the base
no wall, but maybe because it was the edge of a four foot wide table or maybe the resin (it's bamboo and resin) but most likely the edge, I'm pretty sure it was blocking the bluetooth
"This LED is only an indication of the number of satellites being tracked, not of the quality of the signals being received."
So I might have 8 or more sats but with poor quality signals and therefore it can't get a more precise fix.
This would then apply to static/post-processing as well. I might have green or even yellow, but if the quality of the sat signals are not so good, the precision of the point will also be poor. This explains some things. The land here is VERY "broken", lots of gullies and hills so steep you have to cut little foot holds at times. When down in a gully, especially when also on the down side of a mountain, we have a hard time getting a green or even a yellow light. We double the burn time but even then it sometimes shows up as kinetic, has a high data rejection rate and/or high rms. fortunately we don't need much precision down in the gullies. a meter either way is no big deal. by the way, how good an indication of precision is rms? pdop, hdop, etc are better, no?
 

wanconm

Member
now it won't even record standalone, records a few points and rather than accumulate, suddenly erases or doesn't gather any points at all, even in standalone...
 

wanconm

Member
it seems like, in standalone & collect, as long as when it starts the data is standalone, it records and accumulates just fine but as soon as a float data comes along, it erases everything and won't record anything more. Sounds strange but that's what seems to be happening. very frustrating
 

wanconm

Member
Outside did the trick...SUCCESS!!! I collected fixed data. Most excellent! Thanks to everyone, especially Matt. I would still be struggling without the help.
I said "I think that for unfathomable reason my external antenna hpt404bt is considered internal. Does that seem right?"
My head was spinning more than Linda Blair...I meant external radio, not antenna.
I still don't understand why I seem to have to specify internal radio but the hpt404bt is an external radio, right? When I start base does it automatically detect the hpt404 radio without having to have it specified? And my Victor-LS must have the optional uhf radio as well so I'm guessing the basic idea here is that you bluetooth from VicLS to rover and VicLS to base, set up each, start the base to establish communication between the hpt404 and the Victor LS. After that bluetooth from VicLS to base is no longer necessary. Is that correct?
"Victor-LS. It has an internal antenna." there's an optional external antenna. does it work better? should I get the external antenna? I note that the Victor LS optional built in radio modem is 1W. The hpt404 is 4W. Does this mean I will only get 1W range?
 

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
1 watt radio in the Victor LS is passive, receiving the signal from the base. The 4 watt transmit will determine range, not the internal 1 watt. The external uhf antenna does help improve reception which ultimately improves range, but isn't as rugged as the internal.
 
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