Sequence Number

[John Thompson]

One of the fields I can export is Sequence Number. What is it? It's not quite chronological. Is there a way to export points in chronological order short of exporting time stamps and sorting in Excel?

 

[Matt Johnson]

In What to Export screen (tap "Export Range" in the txt export screen) there is an option to sort alphabetically or chronologically.

Chronological sorting is selected in the screenshot. This feature may not have made it to the Release version of J-Field yet. If not you could use the List option with the points sorted by chronologically in the list I believe.

Sequence Number is just the number of the point/line in the exported file.

 

[John Thompson]

My What to Export screen looks like your screenshot, but the exported file is still not chronological.

The points in the exported file are ordered like this:
Points from day 2
Base point from day 1
Points from day 1
Check shots from day 2
Base point from day 1

Within each group the points are sorted alphabetically, not chronologically.

 

[Shawn Billings]

Are these in different pages, John?

 

[John Thompson]

Yes.

The points in the exported file are ordered like this:
Points from day 2 (Page0)
Base point from day 1 (Page9)
Points from day 1 (Page1)
Check shots from day 2 (Page1)
Base point from day 1 (Page9)

Within each group the points are sorted alphabetically, not chronologically.

I still don't see the pattern.

 

[Matt Johnson]

Could you attach the project archive? The raw data doesn't need to be included.

 

[John Thompson]

Attached.

 

[Matt Johnson]

This is what I see when I export the points chronologically in the format of Name TimeLocal:

They are sorted correctly by the dates shown.

 

[John Thompson]

This is what I see.

I took some screenshots with the PrtScrn button, but I can't find where the images were stored. I also can't find where to specify where screenshots are stored. It used to be in Setup > Advanced. Where did it go?

 

[Adam]

Screenshot location can be set under action profile and what to store.

 

[John Thompson]

Thanks, Adam.

It's set to SD Card, but I don't know where on the SD Card they go.

There is an empty folder at \Storage Card\VS Data\ScreenShots. I think that is where they used to go.

 

[Adam]

The setting under What to Record is for screenshots associated with points. For user created screenshots look under Home screen, files, collected by user.

 

[Adam]

Look in the directory above.

 

[John Thompson]

Found them. Thanks.

Here are the settings I used to export the txt file shown above.

 

[John Thompson]

If I sort my above txt file chronologically by TimeLocal, I get:

1001
1002
1003
1004
1005
1006
1007
1008
1009
1010
1011
1012
1013
1014
1015
1016
1017
CHK_1017
CHK_1017[1]
131
128
CHK_1017[2]
Base 2016-08-02
Base 2016-08-04


The order that the points were saved is:

Base 2016-08-02
1001
1002
1003
1004
1005
1006
1007
1008
1009
1010
1011
1012
1013
1014
1015
1016
1017
Base 2016-08-04
CHK_1017
CHK_1017[1]
131
128
CHK_1017[2]

Did both Base points get new time stamps when I DPOSed them?

 

[Mikhail Drakin]

There is indeed some kind of confusion in export: for sorting we use timestamp saved with the object (it is usually the moment when the object was created, but sometimes may be the time when the object was edited), and in export fields I save timestamp of the coordinate (each of the coordinates associated with an object has its own timestamp). Because after DPOS new coordinates are associated with processed points, so change the exported coordinates. I am not sure what would be correct way to fix this, as both kinds of timestamps (object and coordinate) may change over time. Probably we should take the earliest timestamp available (though this will not work for stake points, in which design coordinate timestmap is usually less the surveyed one.
So I am open to suggestions from the collective mind.

 

[Matt Johnson]

I think it would be best if the export order sorting is the same as used in the points list sorting (object timestamp). I would prefer the object timestamps only be updated when a point is resurveyed or when a design point's coordinates are manually edited.

 

[Mikhail Drakin]

Export order sorting corresponds to the points list sorting. In both cases it is by object timestamp.

 

[Matt Johnson]

After thinking about it more, in the case of surveyed design points it might be best to use survey coordinate timestamp in exports.

 

[John Thompson]

I almost never export design points, so I agree with Matt that survey coordinate timestamp for surveyed design points would best for exports. If I have imported design points, the design coordinate timestamps don't mean much. Design coordinate timestamps of manually entered or COGO points are a little more meaningful.

I like having a chronological record of what I did and when, so the time that I surveyed a point is the most meaningful. More meaningful than when I shifted, DPOSed, ReDPOSed, or otherwise adjusted coordinate values.

I wouldn't mind if the exported file had multiple entries for the same point, one for each different timestamp. Office software will alert me if I try to import a point that already exists in the coordinate file.

Thanks for working on this.