Taking a shot question

Phillip Lancaster

Phillip Lancaster

Active Member
So I'm on a job and wanted to have the same criteria as "boundary" profile but would also like to extend the static session. As in an example of working on a route survey along a road. I'm finding property corners but also stopping in and talking with each land owner and filling them in on whats about to happen. Let's say a new water line along the road. I first find a corner and start the process. Then go talk. When I get back the LS has finished its routine. It would be nice for it to auto repeat or at least keeping logging for a longer DPOS file. Then have the user end the session whenever. Is this possible or is it over kill? To me it seems like wasted time that it could be doing something. Or can I create a profile like boundary that is terminated by the user and it puts a screen shot at end of raw data file?
 
Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
You can go to Setup and make a copy of the boundary profile using "Copy As". Then set the How to Stop as "Stop Button". You won't be able to use Validate with the Stop Button, but you probably don't need it with a long observation like that. And you could manually do a reset engines and wait for a fix to perform the same thing that Validate will do.
 
Nate The Surveyor

Nate The Surveyor

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Very good question.
Yes, you can do it.

Several ways are found under
"Stop After,
"How to Stop"
There is AUTO ACCEPT
and AUTO RESTART.
BUT there is a problem with this. IF you use this with STAKEOUT, (Which I do sometimes, by accident) then it uses "ACCEPT" instead of ACCEPT AS.



Unfortunately, you can't extend the Static Session, beyond the RTK session.... yet!

I have been thinking about this... what if it allowed the static to run beyond the RTK session, and you came along, after talking with (for 20 mins) client, or whoever, then grabbed the LS, and the TILT SENSORS should sound an alarm... to TERMINATE static session.
So, IF HOW TO STOP STATIC were a check box, and it had the option of "SOUND WARNING, if motion detected, while static was in session" then it would use the tilt and rotation, and accelerometers to detect motion, then it could either "STOP when motion detected", or sound a warning, and let you stop it.

ANOTHER option could be that IF it it stationary for over XX minutes, then it would automatically begin a new session.
There are ALOT of things that could be... and I am only bringing it up to discuss.

This is one of the things about the JAVAD company, is that they are INTERESTED in good fresh ideas, and will sort these, and prioritize them... and lots of them are HAPPENING.

A long time ago, I was a teenager. I was working. A young fellow came by, curious about me. After watching me for a while, he said "Man, you ain't happenin'!"

Well, JAVAD is HAPPENIN'!

Makes me HAPPY!

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Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
Matt Johnson said:
I agree that GNSS files should automatically continue to record until Accept or Reject is pressed after the How to Stop criteria have been met.

Maybe @Michael Stazhkov can create a ticket for this change?
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I don't like this because I will use the attach button to take pictures, or move off point to edit attributes or description before accepting.
 
Phillip Lancaster

Phillip Lancaster

Active Member
It would be nice to have a longer static but I'll take a longer RTK+static. I just don't know when I'll be back at the rover. Seemed to me it would be a nice feature to strengthen the boundary profile or any profile to have a user ended static. Of course I have yet to have "boundary" give me a bad coordinate. I'm gonna take Shawns advice and make an "extended boundary".
 
Matt Johnson

Matt Johnson

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5PLS
Shawn Billings said:
I don't like this because I will use the attach button to take pictures, or move off point to edit attributes or description before accepting.
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True, trying to attach photos would definitely cause problems. Maybe continue to record until movement of the unit is detected by the tilt sensors. It could still be added as an option for users who still wouldn't want this. An option to stop recording with the GNSS Recording white box could be added too.
 
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Nate The Surveyor

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
I get preoccupied, and could walk off, while a gnss raw observation is in progress. It needs an alarm. If it's tilted, while recording a gnss ppk file. Regardless of how to stop. User settable tilt degree.
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Nate The Surveyor

Nate The Surveyor

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Shawn definitely has a point. So he can take pics.

IF it has an alarm, any time it changes angle by more than 15°, then it could immediately stop the PPK observation, and you could press resume, if you wanted. I can see this happening, for a number of reasons. But, any scheme will work, as long as tilt stops the observation.
I had to "clean up" a number of the L-1 sessions, (yrs ago) where my dad took it down, or a horse took it down, while the file was still open and collecting.
Go for it.
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Jim Campi

Jim Campi

Active Member
Matt Johnson said:
I agree that GNSS files should automatically continue to record until Accept or Reject is pressed after the How to Stop criteria have been met.

Maybe @Michael Stazhkov can create a ticket for this change?
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Matt,
I assume you are only referring to profiles that require a lengthy observation period. I extensively use the auto stop and accept on precise topo work. It would take additional time to tap the end button for every topo shot.
 
Nate The Surveyor

Nate The Surveyor

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It just needs a button "how to stop ppk".

1. Stop at rtk end.
2. Stop at rtk store.
3. Stop with stop hardware STOP button.
4. Etc.
Option 1. Above, is how it is now.
Option 2. Above, lets ppk continue, after rtk is done.
Option 3. Above, lets it have several rtk shots, but only one ppk shot, associated with ONE. Point, but it runs until stopped, or tilted.
 
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