Patrick Garner
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Sean, why not the LS for a flood cert?
Patrick, I'm guessing the instrument was just to get the FFE inside the building.....Sean, why not the LS for a flood cert?
Yes looking in a basement. I did throw my T2 on a point with a previous elevation on it just for kicks to see how that works out.Patrick, I'm guessing the instrument was just to get the FFE inside the building.....
Another possibility, to completely eliminate the total station, is you can just get an elevation as close as you can with the LS on a hard surfaced object, then just use a level and a grade rod to get the FFE.Yes looking in a basement. I did throw my T2 on a point with a previous elevation on it just for kicks to see how that works out.
Pricing exist from some dealers on the internet:
Topcon GR-5 Base and Rover: $34650.00
Topcon FC-500 Data Collector: $1650.00
Topcon Magnet Fields Roads and GPS Software for Data Collector: $1500.00
Total: $37,800
Trimble R10 Base and Rover with TSC3 and Trimble Access: $56,495.00
Lecia Base and Rover: $51580.00
Lecia CS20 Data Collector and Software: $7450.00
Total: $59,030
Matt, coming back to your pricing post, I spent some time Friday afternoon researching typical competitive units from Topcon, Trimble and Leica. In the course of that I came across pricing that's, in some cases, a third to half of what you listed. Of course it's difficult to do any pricing with precision because, like Javad, everyone offers options. So for the most part when I recorded prices, I did so for top end examples (GNSS etc).
For instance, I found prices for Topcons at,
Topcon GR-5 Base and Rover: $20,000-26,000.
Topcon FC-500 Data Collector: $1500-1600
Topcon Magnet Fields Roads and GPS Software for Data Collector: $1500+/-
Total: $23,000-29,000
Trimble prices varied less at,
Trimble R10 Base and Rover with TSC3 and Trimble Access: $23,000-28,000
(All of these come with Trimble's data collector)
Leica bases and rovers were far more difficult to price--far too many possibilities & models. But base/rover combos seemed to start at about $32,000. Leica is clearly the Rolex in the pricing world.
[I can pass along names of dealers for these quotes if you're curious.]
So my tentative conclusion is that Topcons are pretty heavily discounted--and there are many "Email for quotes" websites, which I presume might yield even lower prices--plus, my experience is that discounters will usually negotiate even lower when pushed.
Trimble pricing appears to be more heavily controlled, while Leica pricing rarely varies more than a few percentages among dealers. No surprise.
But based on this research, the construction guy who contacted me wasn't far off when he said Javad's pricing for an LS with radio and modem was about the same or higher than what his dealer would sell a Topcon for.
Of course, the LS is superior in its technology. That might not be a significant factor in open sky surveying, but under cover the LS is unbeatable. As an aside I was also amused that almost every GNSS maker describes their own models as "superior to any other rover," "unparalleled," "world class," "found to beat every other maker in a head to head test," and on and on... The claims are impossible to verify, and outrageously impossible when stacked up against each other.
Ah, for a Consumer's Report for surveyors, an objective institute that tests and compares all receivers. That we'll never see!
Yep....we could go on and on.....but we probably should stay civilized....Yup, and if you embrace the high end of Leica's offerings, you can easily be in that territory.
Topcon? They must demand dealers not advertise their HiPer cost--I've never been able to find prices online. But it sounds like if you choose to go Topcon HR (vs Javad LS), you get half the channels at twice the cost. Hm.