Alpha-numeric point numbers, set to ON or OFF

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
Many of us can deal with Alpha Numeric Pt Nums. But, there are a few that cannot. I'd recommend a switch somewhere, that would turn them ON or OFF. This would make it easier for those who cannot use them. (often, our office software varies)
Nate
 

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
This is controlled by you, largely. If you enter a number, J-Field advances numbers only (no alphas). The only exception that I can think of is with _AVG suffix for averages from cluster averaging, but I suspect that this will be addressed in the feature request you asked for.

Can you think of any other instances, Nate?
 

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
IF you have software, that cannot utilize Alpha Numerics, you should be able to check a box, that will PREVENT the LS from MAKING them. Under STK it makes them, I'm pretty sure. "STK_477".
Also, it should have a check box, to PREVENT duplicate point numbers.
IF the box is checked, that says "No Alpha Numerics" then it should not even allow an accidental entry. I have been crawling through the underbrush, with mine, and found an accidental button press, on my old TDS data collector, and I would suppose that could happen here, where a stray mechanism would enter a letter, and then the LS would continue making points like t, t1, t2, t3, etc. Whereas, the t was an accident. If that little box were checked, it would PREVENT the LS from continuing. It could beep at you, and say "Alpha Character, in Point Name" giving you warning, of it. Before you got a 1/2 or full day of shots...
I have also gotten my old TDS to beep at me, and tell me, that a particular point was "Already in use, overwrite?" and if I said "Yes" then if confirmed once more. I will freely confess, I work in some pretty tough environments. Places that are pretty tough to get to.
It seems like these would be handy. And, by placing them there now, could save many headaches later.
Just last wk, I stored the base as point number 750. (autonomous) Then, went and shot my first shot. Guess what? I stored point number 750! so, It is now in the LS 2x. When I downloaded, I could not figure it out for a couple of hrs. Finally, I went through it with a fine tooth comb. There it was. Base was sequentially there FIRST. Then, the FIRST shot covered it up, in Carlson! So, I simply deleted that shot, (the shot was not stored with the correct name, so I simply re shot it) so, point 751, was the C/L of a creek, and it all went in fine.
Just the nature of the beast. It's best if it does NOT allow duplicate point names. Or, in the very least, it WARNS you vehemently!

:)

N
 

Shawn Billings

Shawn Billings
5PLS
You can set the export of stake points to use numbers instead of the STK_ prefix. Look under More Settings, the click the box labeled "Export Surveyed Design Points as Separate Points" and change Prefix Design Point Name from "STK_" to some numeric value. The numeric value will be added to the design point value.

As for crawling through the brush, use the key lock on the top row of the LS.

As for point duplication. That shouldn't be. When you encounter that, please keep notifying the development team.
 

Matt Johnson

Well-Known Member
5PLS
As for point duplication. That shouldn't be. When you encounter that, please keep notifying the development team.

Nate encountered the same bug with duplicate point names that I posted in https://support.javad.com/index.php?threads/point-conflict.1327/#post-11300. To fix this, the currently entered point name in the Collect Prepare screen needs to be checked for conflicts when the Collect Prepare screen is opened or when Start is pressed. Currently it only looks for conflicts when its value is changed.
 

Deris H. Bardales

New Member
Hello Shawn and Matt,

How can we export the stake points so we get point numbers, when the staked points are points created when importing a dwg file into the Triumph-LS (+). The points on the linework are created with what appears to be the name of the dwg layer. if I go to "more options" and I ask it add to design point names Numeric Values such as 5000... It exports the staked points but I still get a name instead of a number. The following is an example:

C-DRAINAGE_4_1,782695.802,928805.118,0.000,C-DRAINAGE
C-DRAINAGE_4_5001,782695.814,928805.124,15.419,C-DRAINAGE As Staked Point C-DRAINAGE_4_1

It would be great, if I could just get a point number, rather than a point name. I use Autodesk Civil 3D and I can not import points to it when i have point names. It appears it only accepts point numbers.

Please advise, thank you.
 

Matt Johnson

Well-Known Member
5PLS
It would be great, if I could just get a point number, rather than a point name. I use Autodesk Civil 3D and I can not import points to it when i have point names. It appears it only accepts point numbers.

You can the "Seq.No." field if you would like point numbers 1,2,3...

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Maybe @Andrey Zhiganov can add a batch edit option for Point Names that will allow them to be renumbered to some new sequence and also an option for a custom point name sequence when importing dwg files.
 

Nate The Surveyor

Well-Known Member
I know this is not the idea....
But
If you could export to another software package, fix it. And then send it to your favorite software...
It'd "get you by".
But, long-term, it would be good if there were a check box "do not use alpha-point names"
My software allows alphanumeric, so I'm happy. But, it makes sense to not use or allow them.... For some of us.
N
 

Andrey Zhiganov

Active Member
JAVAD GNSS
For now, you can batch rename objects:
 

Matt Johnson

Well-Known Member
5PLS
For now, you can batch rename objects:

Thanks but for now this appears to still only be in the Testing branch of J-Field.
 
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