Can JMT for Android Help Set Up A Repeater?

Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
rugged granite terrain.PNG

We'll be in some fairly rugged terrain tomorrow, mostly big expanses of granite, and I began to consider using the HPT401BT (or the HTP404BT) as a repeater. In the above map, BQ04 (extreme western station) is where our BASE is going to be set up with many of our SEARCH points (red Xes) in the shadows of the mountains. Most of my praying has been for good cell coverage if the UHF can't handle the bumpy terrain.

First question
Is it plausible to consider using the 401/404 as a repeater?

Second question
If yes, can Javad Mobile Tools for Android be used to facilitate such an operation?
 

Matt Johnson

Well-Known Member
5PLS
The 401 and 404 can be used as repeaters but they would have to be setup with ModemVU. The repeater would need to be set to "Simplex Repeater" protocol:

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The base radio will have to be set to "Simplex Transmitter to Repeater" protocol. The rover has three modes: receive from repeater, receive from base, auto. Auto mode is the default and automatically detects the best packet from the base and repeater.

If you can find a high point to set the repeater up on it will probably work well.
 

Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
Thanks Matt! This is great stuff. I think for myself, I definitely will experiment with this, but because there is zero time to practice ahead of our ferry leaving in a couple of hours and the fact that this is a demonstration to a potential customer, I've decided not to try it today in front of Ed ;)
 

Yuri Noyanov

Active Member
JAVAD GNSS
Kelly, Matt,
JMT may be not configure receiver itself right now, but it must be able to configure Base and Rover radios to support repeaters. I will add such settings.
Best regards, Yuri.
 

Kelly Bellis

ME PLS 2099
5PLS
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Ed Pare of Eastern Surveying Company adjusts the bipod on one of their drill hole control points (BQ09).

Jim's question about background maps reminded me that I should have followed up a bit with this thread. Sorry not to have done so sooner - it's been busy here to say the least.

Our mission on Swans Island three weeks ago went very well and even though we found no 19th century boundary-related evidence as hoped, we did find evidence of at least one other surveyor having been out in the desolate rocky area within the past 25 years. The cool part was how we had come to his flagged line. The other cool part was the testing of the UHF range of the HPT404BT under the conditions shown in the topo above where connecting the external UHF antenna to the Triumph-LS proved the deciding factor in successful reception of corrections from the BASE (BQ04 in the map above) over a mile away.

As to how we had arrived at the same line as had previously been flagged quite some time ago, the previously calculated points that are shown above and below were loaded into the LS and used for our general navigation and reconnaissance. Even though the feature implemented by Sergey Gaydukov in J-Field allowing us to load background maps exported directly out of Global Mapper came after our visit to Swans, I still think of it in connection with this project for Eastern Surveying Company as it was my first test using RMaps on the LS.

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Just a quick explanation of what you're looking at: An ancient survey plan was georeferenced in Global Mapper using actual survey data and ortho imagery - a bit of a purple nurple (aka titty-twister), but remarkable conformity with the coastline; coordinates were extracted at the corners of the lots surrounding Goose Pond on Swans Island, Hancock County, Maine and then those (23) points were imported into the LS and are shown in the red color. Beneath the page's red text is the background map of the ancient lotting plan created effortlessly in Global Mapper 16 and now thanks to Sergey Gaydukov is first seen here in this test. Way cool guys - thanks!

If you already are a Global Mapper (GM) user, you can quickly create custom background maps for the Triumph-LS. From the main menu; File, Export Raster/Image Format..., Select Export Format from pulldown menu selection: RMaps SQLite Database.

To get your map onto the LS
  • Using Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC) navigate to the storage card
  • Create a folder Computer\Compact\Storage Card\VS Data\BackgroundMaps
  • Copy your map exported from GM; e.g., 1430_Pare.sqlitedb and place it in this new folder called BackgroundMaps
  • Next, from the Collect screen, tap Project, Edit Current Project, Background Map, choose your recently created masterpiece and then tap OK.
If you don't yet have Global Mapper, there's an option for you use as Vladimir Prasolov first outlined and shared here by Matt Johnson using Mobile Atlas Creator (MOBAC).
 

Yuri Noyanov

Active Member
JAVAD GNSS
Dear friends,
beta 1.2.4 includes ability to activate repeater mode for base and rover (it's just a check box to activate the ability for base or rover UHF-radio setup). And it includes Repeater radio setup. You can connect to Reapeter radio with Bluetooth and configure it.
I would like to listen response how does it work.
 
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