Jesse Huff
New Member
Sorry for confusion!
T3NR Promotion and Trade In Program
- Thread starter Adam Plumley
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avoidthelloyd
Active Member
Please verify that you can collect raw data, stop & download, then DPOS to SPC and restart with the new processed base point coordinates. This is routine workflow for most of us. Looking promising!
Jesse and I will be meeting tomorrow to test the T3NR as a base with JField with TCP via a jetpack and External Radio. I will test DPOS as well.
The T3NR doesn't have an internal cell modem or an internal radio modem. That is the only major difference.
The intro pricing on the T3NR is $6450 without trade in.
The intro pricing on the T3NR is $6450 without trade in.
Filip Kłosowski
Member
Can I have some more detailed questions about T3-NR?
1. Does this device have better housing plastic than the T2 which self degraded and cracked over short time?
2. Does the IMU work as in concurrent receivers of other producers, in both stake out and survey mode without the need to swing it, like it was in Triumph-3?
3. When turning IMU on, does this device AUTO TURNS OFF tracking of some sattelite signals (what decreases performance) to free resources to operate, like it is in Triumph-3?
4. Does this device have less problems with ionospheric interferences during winter time than previous receivers, especially Triumph-2?
5. Is this device able to track more than three constellations at the same time or is it not recommended as in Triumph-2?
6. Which options are activated in the basic configuration (for me the basic config is RTN rover) and which are not?
5. Do these new Javad controllers support visual stakeout?
7. Is it possible to see some real pictures of all new devices (receivers, controllers) instead of computer renders?
1. Does this device have better housing plastic than the T2 which self degraded and cracked over short time?
2. Does the IMU work as in concurrent receivers of other producers, in both stake out and survey mode without the need to swing it, like it was in Triumph-3?
3. When turning IMU on, does this device AUTO TURNS OFF tracking of some sattelite signals (what decreases performance) to free resources to operate, like it is in Triumph-3?
4. Does this device have less problems with ionospheric interferences during winter time than previous receivers, especially Triumph-2?
5. Is this device able to track more than three constellations at the same time or is it not recommended as in Triumph-2?
6. Which options are activated in the basic configuration (for me the basic config is RTN rover) and which are not?
5. Do these new Javad controllers support visual stakeout?
7. Is it possible to see some real pictures of all new devices (receivers, controllers) instead of computer renders?
Jim Campi
Active Member
Hi Jessee,
This is great news. It made no sense to me that you would release a new product and limit its use to JMT.
This is being over particular but just to clarify, the first sentence in your post was intended to say something similar to "The use of the new products as a base in a rtk configuration with existing receivers will absolutely be possible."
I have an ls and T2. It would be nice if my base received corrections from all constellations. That is exactly what this product does, correct?
Also, what are the differences between the 3-NR and recently released 3 (with a much higher price tag)?
Lastly, $6k is all constellations permanently activated or is that an upgrade? Are there options of any kind?
Thank you for the update. I have been thinking about this for a week or so and asking why would it be configured that in this way. $6k is a great price if I understand this correctly.
This is great news. It made no sense to me that you would release a new product and limit its use to JMT.
This is being over particular but just to clarify, the first sentence in your post was intended to say something similar to "The use of the new products as a base in a rtk configuration with existing receivers will absolutely be possible."
I have an ls and T2. It would be nice if my base received corrections from all constellations. That is exactly what this product does, correct?
Also, what are the differences between the 3-NR and recently released 3 (with a much higher price tag)?
Lastly, $6k is all constellations permanently activated or is that an upgrade? Are there options of any kind?
Thank you for the update. I have been thinking about this for a week or so and asking why would it be configured that in this way. $6k is a great price if I understand this correctly.
Yes, the T3NR will provide corrections for more signals than your T2.
The T3NR doesn't have an internal cell modem or an internal radio modem. That is the only major difference.
The intro pricing on the T3NR is $6450 without trade in, $5600 with the trade of your T2. All signals will be activated.
If you have good internet and an rtn, and dpos available then the PPP service probably wouldn't be your first choice. But if you are packing out in the boonies with no cell or internet and no way to dpos then it will come in handy.
Mark Wheeler
Active Member
Shawn,
I have never used M-Local and could not find it on the LS point screen. I found a shift routine under Cogo, but that seems to only work on Design points, not survey. Could you give a refresher?
I have never used M-Local and could not find it on the LS point screen. I found a shift routine under Cogo, but that seems to only work on Design points, not survey. Could you give a refresher?
M Local is the way to shift survey points. Highlight the source point being translated (usually a base point, but it could be a rover point if the rover point was on a known coordinate). Click the chart button below the DPOS button. At the bottom right corner of the screen, you should see a button with two green planes. If you don't see it click on the button at the top left that shows ABS/Known/Auto. Cycle through them until you see the two green planes button. This is the M-Local button. Once selected you will be prompted to give a point or coordinate for the destination of this point. Once selected and okay'ed the point will translate, along with the base point (if it's a rover point) and all rover points collected from that base point. Points observed from other base sessions will not move, nor will any design points. In this regard, it works very much like DPOS in how it translates. Note this is only for small translations such as you might encounter in translating from an autonomous position to a CORS position (a few meters). It is not intended for large translations such as State Plane to 5,000/5,000.
avoidthelloyd
Active Member
Have you JAVAD guys tested the STOP - DOWNLOAD BASE - DPOS workflow yet???
Hey Jason, I've tested and found a few issues. The engineering team is making some tweaks to the firmware to get this working. This will probably take 1 to 2 weeks. I have your unit in hand and will test all of this again once it gets fixed up and then ship it to you.
I was able to do some testing recently and the T3NR performed very well as a rover receiving TCP corrections. My requirements for completing a point was 2 epochs with 1 engine required. No verification, validation, or variety was required. At the location below the T3 collected 100 points in 41 minutes. None of the points were bad. In fact the worst was out less than .1' horizontally.
I was mistaken when I posted this information. JMT on IPhone will not work with the Triumph 3, 3NR, or T1M+. Android will work with all of them.
Monte King
Member
I am intrigued with the J-Star PPP. I assume it uses the satellites for corrections and/or PP?
I would love to see RTK corrections streamed through starlink or other satellite constellation eliminating the need for radios or internet connections altogether. Basically an RTN that only uses satellites. Just a dream...for now anyway.
ZTkowasz
Member
Is there a plan to get them to work with Apple products?
I don't think so.
We have the Victor 2 and Victor 4, which are both android devices.
JMT can be downloaded on the play store to any android device, so I Phone users will need to pick up an android tablet or phone.
Personally, I don't like running JMT on my actual phone. I'm on it so much that it doesn't make sense to use it as a data collector. I prefer to have a device dedicated as my collector.
Zach, give me a call if you want to discuss any of this.
704-477-7128
Here are a couple of videos I have taken doing some testing of T3NR with JMT. I couldn't post them directly so here are the links to the videos.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dea5vuhrpjzx7ux/IMG_5828.MOV?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wyniacb5pt6hy2e/IMG_5827.MOV?dl=0
So far I am super impressed. Much more impressed than I expected to be honestly. I still have more testing to do and will keep everyone posted.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dea5vuhrpjzx7ux/IMG_5828.MOV?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wyniacb5pt6hy2e/IMG_5827.MOV?dl=0
So far I am super impressed. Much more impressed than I expected to be honestly. I still have more testing to do and will keep everyone posted.