What, pray tell, is smart tip?

[Joe Paulin]

Thanks for the input Darren, sounds like you guys are going full steam ahead! We would tackle street mapping projects this way as well. One base, multiple rovers and a robot as well. We would divide and conquer, throwing 4 crews or so all on one job instead of having one crew on four different jobs. We found everyone worked better together rather than apart and new folks learned a lot more that way. It sure kept the drafters busy!

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

What if... Just what if when you downloaded and processed the "master Rover", and you were done, it asked you IF any other rovers needed the base file? Tell it YES, and give it the serial number of the other rovers.
Now, there is an option, for DPOS, that works off of "Previous Base download". So, you process those Rover files.
Would that work?

N

 

[Darren Clemons]

Odd how the threads sometimes seem to wander with the way we all think/connect different ideas. Jim started this talking about the smart tip, then it wandered to talk of Javad's market share and some of us went on to debate who likes their Javad equipment the best Now it's meandered to processing dpos files of multiple rovers.

Nate's idea is a good one. That would work, but really the simplest, easiest way I could see this being done is just have a way to export the raw data collected with each dpos point from the additional rovers onto your flash drive. Import that into rover one, which of course already has the base file, and process normally. This way we could keep the start up on rovers 2, 3, etc. as simple as it is - turn it on and go. No connecting to the base, no downloading the file afterward.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

Daren's idea is good. It condenses all the data, onto one master LS, which keeps the whole she-bang on one place. In fact, that really has some good sides to it, when you consider the archiving of jobs, and the sequence of data flow, and keeping the historic record intact, for our records, and defense-ability of what we did... 10 yrs down the road. All we would need is a condensation method... ie, to be able to keep track of which LS that coord came from. HMMM

 

[Joe Paulin]

Good thoughts guys. I was actually thinking about the opposite of what you are suggesting. Instead of bringing the second or third Rover fast static info into the core Rover that started/stopped the base, what about bringing the base static file into each Rover. We just need a button in DPOS that says "Base process using *this* file. That way, each Rover could process it's own points.

 

[Nate The Surveyor]

Joe, one of the problems with this method, is that the LS data is NOT integrated. So, we then would need a method to integrate the files.
Another possible soiution is a MASTER in a PC, where it can be integrated, ie software, in a PC where it all comes together.
But, that could take a while. And, be expensive.
Nate

 

[Joe Paulin]

Good point Nate and I was going to follow up with this issue, which I think is separate from what we were discussing above concerning Hybrid RTK with multiple rovers. If multiple rovers are run on a job, there is a need for integration between rovers and a central computer or server. Knowing the Javad Team, this is probably being worked on already, but that is speculation on my part.

Team Javad: If the rovers all have internet connections, how hard would it be for multiple rovers to talk to each other and a server or online computer in real time? That would provide integration between multiple rovers and a computer in the office.

For example, let's say Nate and I have partnered up and are completing a large topo with two LS units. It would be very handy to be able to see Nate's points appear on my unit and map view in real time or near real time (and vice versa) so that we don't trip over each other out there. I would be able to see that Nate had already located that stream so I don't need to, but I could see that we do have a gap in ground shots in the woods. It would also let me know that Nate has already collected 1000 points by lunchtime and I need to get my butt in gear!

Seriously though, through RAMS which is AMAZING, we already have the capability to look at each others rover, but not in the LS. Is real time communication between LS rovers a huge undertaking?

Thoughts, comments, feedback?

Thanks!

 

[Nistorescu Sorin]

Could be a good example:
http://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-surface-hub/en-us